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Kaepernick refuses to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people

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Ali gave up his career. I haven't seen where this dweeb is getting out of the league.

 

Point missed.

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The drug laws, are you saying the laws are written that if a white person is caught selling, using drugs etc they will not be prosecuted? That they are written so that only blacks can be arrested for drug use etc?

 

Get OUT of your pool. The sun is impacting your thinking.

 

Jury decisions, I already gave you a great example of how jury decisions go both ways. A black jury frees a black man of murder and I'm sure a white jury has found guilty a black man of murder. This isn't something that just happens against 1 race.

 

 

Again, you are talking about individual people when you talk about police stops. I know for a fact that police of all colors have pulled over people of another race and some have done it in purpose as it was their own personal profiling.

 

Again, you made a post inferring that laws of today are purposely written according to the color of your skin. I'm waiting to see those laws brought to my attention.

 

Again I said racism goes on between people, but today's America doesn't write laws soecifically stating because the color of your skin you can do so and so.

 

Exceptions to the rule are just that. Exceptions to the RULE. It doesn't mean the rule isn't valid.

 

By that logic racism doesn't exist. Period.

Point missed.

 

The point I'm making is that Ali took a stand that cost him his livelihood in the prime of his career.

 

Bay Area Baby hasn't given up a thing.

 

Maybe that's not what you're trying to convey, but it's what I'm trying to convey.

The point I'm making is that Ali took a stand that cost him his livelihood in the prime of his career.

 

Bay Area Baby hasn't given up a thing.

 

Maybe that's not what you're trying to convey, but it's what I'm trying to convey.

 

You replied to my post so I assumed you took issue with my point.

I guess the real question you need to ask yourself is, if you're actually doing anything in the real world to help. It's one thing to use Ponder's badge as your avatar, or to isolate other members in controversial threads for their opinions. There's more to helping than trying to be the smoothest commenter on BGP. I don't need you to make sure I've thought it through, I'm living the life and trying to keep positive encounters, while holding law breakers accountable for their actions. What exactly are you doing in the real world to make sure YOU have thought it all through?

 

Ponder, a young Trooper who was murdered after doing everything he could to NOT arrest a young black man (including trying to find him a place to stay).

 

Thought that should be mentioned. Guys like him fade in a lot of people's memories while a criminal like Michael Brown is praised at concerts and supported on national television.

Ali gave up his career. I haven't seen where this dweeb is getting out of the league.

 

He's working on that. Has been for a couple years.

White America will always have a problem with black people voicing their opinions on racism. That is something that will never change.

 

Real question. Could it be that when a black person makes a general statement about white racism considering most white people are not racist it makes them feel like they are being categorized as something they are not? So they take a little offense to the statement.

You've stated what you believe. I'm not sure how you want me to respond in any more detail.

 

You've stated how you feel, I just disagree with you. I mean no offense, I just think you made a bad analogy.

Get OUT of your pool. The sun is impacting your thinking.

 

 

 

Exceptions to the rule are just that. Exceptions to the RULE. It doesn't mean the rule isn't valid.

 

By that logic racism doesn't exist. Period.

Wait a second. Every time I prove your point invalid you never give anything to support your argument and prove my point as invalid, you simply say vague things like "get out of your pool the sun is impacting your thinking". Again Clyde, I'm giving you a perfect chance to back up your point with factual evidence and you can't.

 

I will ill give you another opportunity to do so. Show me the drug laws of the 90's that were only made to hold blacks accountable for breaking the law.

 

Its pretty simple Clyde. You stated as a fact the laws were written that way, now is your chance to provide substance with your biased conclusion. Show us a single law that is only written to opress blacks and if whites do the same thing they are not held to the same standards.

 

Ball is in your court. By the way Clyde I said many times and many times in here that I said racism does exist, it exist by people toward other people of all races. There are racist on this board and I could name names but don't want to be banned for speaking the truth.

Real question. Could it be that when a black person makes a general statement about white racism considering most white people are not racist it makes them feel like they are being categorized as something they are not? So they take a little offense to the statement.

 

To be honest, a couple of posts here make it seem like white people aren't allowed to share their opinion on topics like this, unless they agree with CK.

 

When they do they're ridiculed for telling black people how to think, or they're generalized into one big group AKA white America.

To be honest, a couple of posts here make it seem like white people aren't allowed to share their opinion on topics like this, unless they agree with CK.

 

When they do they're ridiculed for telling black people how to think, or they're generalized into one big group AKA white America.

Trust me, they are not or they are stereotyped the same way CK has stereotyped all of America for a few and I mean a very few, less than .01% of all police officers.

 

Because of a bad police officer, America is labeled Opressive to the black man.

 

Yet God help any white person who says anything negative about the BLM when they purposely seek out white peoples at protests to almost beat to death. That isn't racist, but to have drug laws is racist.

 

The hypocriscy of some is pretty incredible.

Did I say their isn't racism today? No

There is plenty of racism from both blacks and white in today's America.

 

Im not talking about that. What I am talking about is CK's statement that Police are murderers and blacks should not be held accountable when they commit crimes. That is what he basically said.

 

That is what this is about.

I missed where CK said what you have stated here. When and where did he say those things?

If we are going to have a debate based on intentions and words used let's use the words used.

 

Here's what I found when he talked to a reporter after the game.

 

 

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

 

Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem - NFL.com

 

Where did I miss the part where he said blacks should be able to get away with violent crimes and that all police shootings are murders?

 

Here's the major problem with Kaepernick's comment about the flag. He's either ignorant to or just plain ignoring the fact that the American flag he has such a problem with is the flag that many fought under to free blacks from slavery and the same flag that gives him the right to have his little protest, in which many of all colors including white have died for. Again, this is nothing more than symbolism over substance and attention for him and, as you can see, he's getting what he craves.

Interesting quote from Russell Brand that touches on the subject:

 

[h=1]“When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.”[/h]

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