None the less they are a small school program who have regularly beaten large school programs. You can't say numbers matter except for Beechwood because they don't fit my hypothesis.

I didn't say that, so what's the point?

 

Again, numbers are important, but they're not the only thing.

Before each game on CovCath Internet Radio the players introduce themselves to the listens with their name, and what Parish School they attended. Only two (2) from the twenty two (22) starters, didn't mention a Catholic Parish School as where they attended grade school.

 

 

Thats almost 10%, not a small number. What if those 2(hypothetically)

were in Boone County's district, I think that the Rebels would be a better

football team. That would conversely mean CCH would not have as much

talent on their team, missing 2 starters. Also, did the other 20 attend

CCH district parish schools?

I believe Beechwoods QB is an out of district player. How many

others are from outside the FT.Mitchell school district?

Thats almost 10%, not a small number. What if those 2(hypothetically)

were in Boone County's district, I think that the Rebels would be a better

football team. That would conversely mean CCH would not have as much

talent on their team, missing 2 starters. Also, did the other 20 attend

CCH district parish schools?

 

 

Are you serious 2 out of 22? There are public school teams that have way more than 2 catholic grade school kids on them.

Are you serious 2 out of 22? There are public school teams that have way more than 2 catholic grade school kids on them.

 

 

In Louisville yes, but there are not as many Catholic grade schools around the state as there are in Louisville. We have a unique culture on account of that.

In Louisville yes, but there are not as many Catholic grade schools around the state as there are in Louisville. We have a unique culture on account of that.

I'd say we probably have quite a few on our team as well.

I'd say we probably have quite a few on our team as well.

 

 

No doubt, but I was commenting more on the different atmosphere of the community with the Catholic schools here.

Thats almost 10%, not a small number. What if those 2(hypothetically)

were in Boone County's district, I think that the Rebels would be a better

football team. That would conversely mean CCH would not have as much

talent on their team, missing 2 starters. Also, did the other 20 attend

CCH district parish schools?

 

This is my favorite argument the public schools try to use. The old "our kids" from "our district". Here's a little hint: you do not own those kids. They "belong" to their parents.

No doubt, but I was commenting more on the different atmosphere of the community with the Catholic schools here.

Our town is three miles long and has two catholic schools and another right down the hill.

This is my favorite argument the public schools try to use. The old "our kids" from "our district". Here's a little hint: you do not own those kids. They "belong" to their parents.

 

 

Where did I say "our kids"? Also, my kids attend private schools

in NKY.

 

When someone uses the term from "our district", how does that

constitute ownership?

 

My point is that there are some advantages for privates, whether

they are admitted to or not.

Just as I figured, not one sound argument reinforcing the private school position. One of the private arguments involved Division 1 athletes. Most of the public schools in the state only produce a Division 1 athlete every decade or so. Many of the public schools in the state have never produced a Division 1 athlete. There is just no comparison in the talent bases. Someone on the private side even compared this issue to the 60's civil rights movement. Please!!!! There is absolutely no comparison between the civil rights movement and a disagreement over high school sports.

 

The fact has been clearly established on the field of play, in the public opinion and among the representative public school administrators that the privates have an unfair advantage. The advantage is clear, private schools select their players from where ever they please; while the the public schools must develop their players from the feeder programs within the boundary of their school districts. This is not a self imposed position (I simply do not understand why many people keep saying this, it is not true. This is astate mandeated position and it serves the best interest of the public). There are many issues involving the welfare of the public domain and students attending schools outside their home district. Maintaining the viabilaty of public education is one of the primary concerns. The state funds students on a per head basis and with funding already low every transfer further diminishes the quality of public education. The KHSAA has clearly stated that contacting students outside of distrcit boundaries regarding athletics constitutes recruiting. Further the KHSAA has been very clear about athletic based transfers and residence requirements. In the public school world, anytime a good athlete transfers to another public school there is about a 100% probability the athlete is going to have to sit out a year and attorneys are going to be involved.

 

Do the private supporters on this board really believe that the private schools are dominating KHSAA sports because of superior coaches and program support? The coaching and support is just as strong on the public side. Public coaches are recruited and compensated based on their performance just as private coaches are. The difference is the talent base.

I am curious as to what percentage of private school football starters actually attended a private primary school (1st-6th). I am not talking about percentage of players on the team. Lots of kids, with no chance to actually contribute in a competitive game, suit-up. I am talking about starters. I predict there is a "STARK DIFFERENCE" in this statistic between the public and privates. As I stated earlier, any run of the mill coach should be able to consistently win if he has the ability to select his players from his oppositions talent base.

 

As for scheduling difficulties due to the small number (16) of private schools playing football, this is not a public school concern. The privates have segregated themselves socially and academically; why not athletically. I strongly contend that the Catholic Schools, in particular, could easily resolve this problem through their national affiliation. Most of the privates playing football are located in the Louisville and Covington areas (Lexington Cath is also located reasonably close to these cities). There should be no reason, the schools in question, could not join the Cincinnatti area private league, where high school football is played at its highest level. Private schools do not acknowledge public school boundaries; why should they acknowledge state boundaries? I am willing to bet that X and T would not dominate in that league. I predict X and T would endure regular losing seasons for the same reason (numbers and talent base) publics are crying foul in Kentucky. The travel complaint carries no weight with the publics. Public schools in most areas of Kentucky regularly travel an hour or more for district play.

 

Segregation is going to eventually happen due to public demand and because it is clearly needed to even the playing fields of Kentucky.

 

Mutt,

 

It is not just the talent base. Get back to me when the publics have the parental support for teams from the 3rd grade level to the 8th grade level like the Louisville CSAA does. Coaches, game administration people, concessions workers, clean-up crews, etc. That's A BIG REASON why the Catholic schools have your percieved "advantage". Simply put, we have the parental interest and involvement and the publics, while they have some, have NOWHERE NEAR the amount that the CSAA does, which filters into the high school level. Get to work, mutt, you've got a lot of people to start calling.

Wouldn't this discussion be better served in the "Public/Private Debates" Forum ???

 

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I thought that's where we were right now? :confused:

I thought that's where we were right now? :confused:

It was later moved into this forum.

It was later moved into this forum.

 

Thanks, Bird, didn't realize that.

Mutt,

 

It is not just the talent base. Get back to me when the publics have the parental support for teams from the 3rd grade level to the 8th grade level like the Louisville CSAA does. Coaches, game administration people, concessions workers, clean-up crews, etc. That's A BIG REASON why the Catholic schools have your percieved "advantage". Simply put, we have the parental interest and involvement and the publics, while they have some, have NOWHERE NEAR the amount that the CSAA does, which filters into the high school level.

 

dr1, I invite you to come to Knox County and follow the parents around for a week. You pick the level, K-2, 3-4, 5-6, middleschool or high school. This is the type of arrogant bull that has caused the rift between public/private.