August 8, 201610 yr Again, most of the people talking about this case saw it online on FB, Twitter, BGP, etc. Media is irrelevant to this story. To the big picture, no way in the hell the media tries to incite violence. None. This was aired on "CNN Newsroom". A straight news program.
August 8, 201610 yr No. As cynical as I am I refuse to believe people want to incite violence in the name of TV ratings. It's a lazy narrative. You have never watched MSNBC before then because that is exactly what AL Sharpton did during the Michael Brown incident and riots afterwards.
August 8, 201610 yr I would think, barring some other evidence, that the only officer that would be in danger of getting fired would be the officer that initially opened fire on the car. The department policy is pretty clear that the officers are not allowed to fire at a moving vehicle. The other officers could very well think that the suspect was shooting at them given that the first officer was kinda shooting at them. As for the officer that shot him in the back I'd say that unless there is some evidence that hasn't been released he will be in the clear given the circumstances. The officer that initially opened fire will have a hard time explaining how he thought the suspect was shooting at him. As far as what we know, the first officer who opened fire never said he thought he was being shot at. He opened fire because the punk rammed their vehicle with a stolen car. That is considered a deadly weapon.
August 9, 201610 yr Author As far as what we know, the first officer who opened fire never said he thought he was being shot at. He opened fire because the punk rammed their vehicle with a stolen car. That is considered a deadly weapon. If they didn't think O'Neal shot at them they will definitely be fired. According to Chicago Police Department guidelines officers are prohibited from firing at a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the lone threat. The vehicle had already struck their vehicle and was driving away when the first 3 officers (I thought it was 1) opened fire. Not only was it a residential neighborhood but the officers fired toward other officers on scene.
August 9, 201610 yr This was aired on "CNN Newsroom". A straight news program. Wait CNN and MSNBC aren't social media?
August 9, 201610 yr I posed the debate earlier. What is policy for police re: fleeing suspects? Do we want police shooting fleeing unarmed suspects? If they have committed acts of violence to others, are still a threat and cannot be detained then yes, you have to eliminate the threat.
August 9, 201610 yr We will just have to disagree on that. So lets say as he is running (and no threat in your thoughts) he barges into your house and kills you. Still not a threat?
August 9, 201610 yr So lets say as he is running (and no threat in your thoughts) he barges into your house and kills you. Still not a threat? Please read the post you quoted.
August 9, 201610 yr Wait CNN and MSNBC aren't social media? Correct, but I don't think they're aware of that.
August 10, 201610 yr Way it goes...people talk to us like we're idiots and paranoid then when they're proved wrong...crickets.
August 10, 201610 yr As far as what we know, the first officer who opened fire never said he thought he was being shot at. He opened fire because the punk rammed their vehicle with a stolen car. That is considered a deadly weapon. The chief said the officers who fired at the vehicle violated policy. He will not be able to use this as a defense for firing at the deceased.
August 10, 201610 yr If they have committed acts of violence to others, are still a threat and cannot be detained then yes, you have to eliminate the threat. We agree wholeheartedly. Question in this case is in regards to him being "still a threat." That one is going to be tough to justify since he had no gun and was on foot running away from the officer.
August 10, 201610 yr Way it goes...people talk to us like we're idiots and paranoid then when they're proved wrong...crickets. I'm not sure anyone has ever talked to either of you like you're idiots... Just because we don't always take your opinions as the final word doesn't mean we think you are an idiot, not by any stretch of the imagination. As much as I may disagree with you all, I'm glad you all offer your insight because I know on more than one occasion I have learned something from one of you that I had no idea about before.
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