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Democrat Convention Discussion

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What about a rumored Stein/Bernie third challenge?

Wishful thinking. A couple of pro politicos -- one D and one R -- on Matthews' show the other night predicted that Johnson and Stein will pull only 5 to 7 percent of the general election vote.

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And lots more Democrat women-mothers, wives, sisters, daughters- adding to their Democrat mens votes for Trump. Someone asked if any woman was at least proud of the first woman nominee ever. This woman, no way. I shall save that celebration for one who is deserving of it.

It just got harder to vote for the GOP nominee. He didn't even know who Hillary's VP choice was, confusing TK with the former governor of New Jersey.

You can lead a horse to water......................

 

Over a 30 year period they are down. Considering there were 104 officers shot and killed in 1980. The trend is down.

 

Killed in the Line of Duty

Over a 30 year period they are down. Considering there were 104 officers shot and killed in 1980. The trend is down.

 

Killed in the Line of Duty

 

It doesn't matter what happened 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Look at what is happening right now. The "it's down over a 30 year period" is a tired argument. We live in what is happening NOW.

It doesn't matter what happened 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Look at what is happening right now. The "it's down over a 30 year period" is a tired argument. We live in what is happening NOW.

 

Facts are tiring...ok.

 

68 shot and killed in 2011. I bet we don't get there.

 

Romney missed the boat. He might have gotten more followers in 2012 if he drummed up more fear.

Is the specific targeting of police officers up compared to prior years? It sure seems like it was a very rare instance in the past when they would be ambushed while it's happened a few times this summer.

Facts are tiring...ok.

 

68 shot and killed in 2011. I bet we don't get there.

 

Romney missed the boat. He might have gotten more followers in 2012 if he drummed up more fear.

 

It's history.

 

Please go tell the families of this years fallen officers that they shouldn't feel so bad. They are below 2011. :ohbrother:

 

We're only halfway through the year. 33 killed so far. There is a fact for you.

 

Many refuse to see the forest for the trees.

Is the specific targeting of police officers up compared to prior years? It sure seems like it was a very rare instance in the past when they would be ambushed while it's happened a few times this summer.

 

 

I would say it's just been more publicized. Officers probably get ambushed more than we know.

 

It's history.

 

Please go tell the families of this years fallen officers that they shouldn't feel so bad. They are below 2011. :ohbrother:

 

We're only halfway through the year. 33 killed so far. There is a fact for you.

 

Many refuse to see the forest for the trees.

 

I pray we don't reach last year's number of 39.

 

If the pace stays the same the last 5 months of 2016 then it would be the 5th deadliest year for police officers since 2000.

 

Hardly cause for the fear mongering being fed by the Donald.

 

If you take out the actions of 2 nut jobs we may have lost the least officers to gunfire in 2016 than any in half a century.

I would say it's just been more publicized. Officers probably get ambushed more than we know.

 

 

 

I pray we don't reach last year's number of 39.

 

If the pace stays the same the last 5 months of 2016 then it would be the 5th deadliest year for police officers since 2000.

 

Hardly cause for the fear mongering being fed by the Donald.

 

If you take out the actions of 2 nut jobs we may have lost the least officers to gunfire in 2016 than any in half a century.

 

Like I said, tell that to the families of the fallen officers.

 

Those that don't see that there is a war on LEO's just don't want to accept that fact for whatever convoluted reasoning.

It just got harder to vote for the GOP nominee. He didn't even know who Hillary's VP choice was, confusing TK with the former governor of New Jersey.

 

See this article that talks about OIL production in the US.

 

Thanks to Fracking, U.S. Will Pass Saudi Arabia In Oil Production

 

Between 2007 and 2012, U.S. shale gas production rose by over 50 percent each year, and its share of total U.S. gas production jumped from five percent to 39 percent.... Between 2007 and 2012, fracking also generated an 18-fold increase in U.S. production of what is known as light tight oil, high-quality petroleum found in shale or sandstone that can be released by fracking. This boom has succeeded in reversing the long decline in U.S. crude oil production, which grew by 50 percent between 2008 and 2013.

 

From 2013, fracking pushed US OIL production to a 25 year high.

 

Fracking Boom Pushes U.S. Oil Output to 25-Year High - Bloomberg

 

And from the Wall Street Journal ... US OIL production has nearly doubled under Obama due to fracking.

 

How Much U.S. Oil and Gas Comes From Fracking? - Corporate Intelligence - WSJ

 

Gas prices are down because of a glut of oil. Drilling increased dramatically under Obama. If Obama is so opposed to oil and drilling, this dramatic increase should be considered the greatest failure of his presidency.

 

All these articles show how much oil production increased from fracking and thus leading to lower gasoline prices.

 

Excellent information here! I did not know the US surpassed Saudi Arabia in oil production. That is great to know! Regarding fracking, I was not as aware of its effect on oil as I should have been. Where I worked in the oilfield, its main effect has been on natural gas production. Though, I do recall now that it also started a resurgence out in the Northwest--Montana, South and North Dakota, I believe. You were right about fracking's affect on oil production and that this increase lowered the price of gasoline. I love it that technology and investment in oil production has paid off here in the US. I remember when the price of oil reached $8 a barrel and that was not good for the small independent oil company I worked for. Lots of guys got laid off.

 

BUt here is the thing, what you say led to lower prices (and you are right) had very little to do with Barack O'Bama's policy regarding oil and gas. It can be attributed to advancement in technology, mostly.

 

Here's an article on CNN that addresses this. I'll provide the link with some quotes.

 

Why U.S. oil production is booming under Obama's watch - Jan. 28, 2

This was not a kumbaya moment for either convention and they both had to deal with contentious factions. However, from four total state's delegates walking out to the request that security not wear too obvious uniforms on the convention floor to the Philadelphia Police Chief having to make a request of the Democratic Chairperson for a speaker representing law officers lives lost and for the final night's disgraceful and disrespectful actions. I think we all know which side behaved more badly. And these are the same kinds ( if not THE same) of disruptors who have created problems for Trump Rallies all year. How many, you ask, one disrespectful person is too many when a life is put on the line.

 

The post I quoted mentioned "delegates booing" and I wanted to know how extensive it was. I went back and found the clip and it was 3-4 loudmouth jerks shouting out something, I didn't hear any booing on the clip I watched. I did notice an overwhelming silence which means they were respecting the fallen officers. I refuse to condemn a group of thousands over a few jerks. Happens all too often.

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