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Republican Convention Discussion

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I see this as people that can think for themselves. Unlike the Dem convention where everyone will goose step the party line.

 

Perhaps Mrs. Trump should have taken that advice prior to giving her speech.

 

And to be fair, I do not disagree with Cruz's "vote your conscience" theme. Heck, that's what I say every time someone who pooh-poohs a third-party vote. I just think that it wasn't what Mr. Trump needed out of a loooonnnnngggg keynote speech.

 

And would it have garnered nearly the attention it did had not the New York delegation started all the noise? My guess is no.

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I bet there are a lot of viewers tonite.

I just saw the video of Sen Cruz speech. His face was priceless.

 

As @LIPTON BASH will remind me I was not a fan of the senator and thought he would NEVER last as long as he did. I was wrong.

 

I must admit I have new found respect for him for a)standing up for the party that he thinks is off the rails and b)NOT endorsing the guy who linked his father to JFK's assassination and said some rough things about his wife. Kudos.

 

Disagree with you on this one.....

 

He's not a man of his word. He's self serving. He has alienated every one at every turn.

 

He will have a difficult time finding a job (read re-election) going forward.

 

He confirmed everything that everyone has been saying about him, that Ted is out for Ted.....and maybe even Hillary at this point.

Disagree with you on this one.....

 

He's not a man of his word. He's self serving. He has alienated every one at every turn.

 

He will have a difficult time finding a job (read re-election) going forward.

 

He confirmed everything that everyone has been saying about him, that Ted is out for Ted.....and maybe even Hillary at this point.

 

So you'd support someone who said the things Trump did about Cruz about your wife and father?

Cruz with a huge gamble last night. He is betting on Trump to lose big. That is the only way he can continue with his political career.

Cruz with a huge gamble last night. He is betting on Trump to lose big. That is the only way he can continue with his political career.

 

I tend to agree.

Didn't Cruz try to "buddy-up" with Trump early in the primaries?

 

Fwiw, if Trump had said those things about my family, I wouldn't endorse him, but I also wouldn't go to the National Convention to try to air my grievances.

You sign a pledge you live by that. If your so hurt about what he said about your wife after your super pac thru dirt on his wife, confront him like a man and tell him so.

 

You can't have it both ways. #soreloser

He didn't honor his pledge, that should be enough to show he wouldn't honor his word in anything else. He should be done.

 

Trump said I don't know if I will support [any of the other Republican candidates]. Then he said he would, then he said he wouldn't. He contradicted himself as he was hedging his bets. You can trust a guy like that ;)

 

Did Cruz say he would support Trump before or after Trump made the accusations against his father and insulted his wife? Has Trump said anything that could possibly change Cruz's mind after Cruz said he would support the eventual Republican nominee? Trump burns bridges when he opens his mouth.

 

Disagree with you on this one.....

 

He's not a man of his word. He's self serving. He has alienated every one at every turn.

 

He will have a difficult time finding a job (read re-election) going forward.

 

He confirmed everything that everyone has been saying about him, that Ted is out for Ted.....and maybe even Hillary at this point.

 

Are you speaking about Trump? Cruz does what he says. He sticks to his principles. When his fellow Republicans go against his principles, Ted opposes them too. They don't like it. They want compromisers so they can get their pet projects done, meanwhile, the country continues to rack up debt and turns from conservative principles. Ted doesn't go along with the compromise. That is why he is not liked. Christie said Cruz was selfish. What he means is that Cruz is true to his principles and that means he can't pretend to be behind someone like Trump.

 

Cruz's political future will soon be sharing space with the Dodo bird and the Woolly Mammoth.

 

That may be but he can still look himself in the mirror and know he is true to his principles and the principles his constituents voted him into office to support. Wait for the Trump administration and then see how many of those who supported Trump can still look themselves in the mirror and be proud of their choice of candidate.

 

Ted Cruz's entire career in the senate has been stepping on toes and infuriating the members of his own party almost as much as Democrats. We can't possibly be surprised by this.

 

See above where I talk about Cruz's refusal to compromise his conservative principles even when its his own party who asks him to do so. That kind of principled politics is not appreciated inside the beltway. It is appreciated by the people who elected him to do that very thing.

 

Why did they even have Cruz speak?

 

That's a good question. And i would ask Cruz, "Why didn't you just take a pass on speaking?" I think it would have been better for him just to refuse to do so. In the end, he did not say, "I do NOT support Trump for President." He just didn't explicitly say, "I support Trump and I want you to vote for him too." He just said what he could in good conscience say, "Vote your conscience up and down the ticket." Of course, the implication is he supports the Republican party over any Democrat, but he doesn't want to support Trump. He should have just stayed home.

 

His political career. He was basically booed off. Read the rest on CNN. After tonight I would not vote for him for dog catcher. These candidates all pledged to support whoever won the nomination. The ones who have not are liars. The deserve nothing. And I would say the same about Trump if the roles were reversed.

 

Please, Trump speaks out of both sides of his mouth. See above. Cruz, on the other hand, remains true to his principles. He has not changed. He and Trump were never on the same side. He isn't on Trump's side now. How is that being a "liar"? He said he would support the eventual Republican nominee. Trump has made that impossible for him to do so. He cannot be true to his principles and support Trump. He chose to remain true to his convictions and that means, even though he made a general statement about supporting his party, he cannot explicitly say that he wants you to vote for Trump.

 

His integrity has put him at odds with his party.

Only in politics is dysfunction considered a good thing by people. :lol2:

 

Only in politics is "dysfunction" needed to get us headed in a better direction because the "norm" has us headed for hell.

So you'd support someone who said the things Trump did about Cruz about your wife and father?

 

First: Politics is not for the faint of heart of thin of skin. Things are said during election / selection lead ups that are brutal individually. If you wear your personal feelings on your sleeve, you won't make it.

 

Second: Cruz signed his name, along with a number of others, to include Trump, that said he would support the nominee, even if it wasn't him. By doing what he did, he looks weak and self serving.

 

Third: Yes, I would keep my word, because it's stronger than election / selection rhetoric.

 

Cruz wanted / wants to be the leader of the free world. If he can't take a few shots to the body and defend himself against a politician within the US, I don't want him up against some of the baddest dudes in the world.

 

Overall weak performance by Cruz, I expected better out of him. I think he may have sealed the deal for himself. Huge gamble on his part.

I am kind of disgusted with all the individuals involved. On the other hand, I really like the Republican Party platform. I think it is really solid for the types of things that I believe in. I was talking with my wife last night about if it were possible to vote for the platform instead of the individual. Obviously, not. I have genuine concern that many of the elements of the platform that are most important to me will be ignored by Trump if he wins.

Only in politics is "dysfunction" needed to get us headed in a better direction because the "norm" has us headed for hell.

 

Pure hyperbole...

 

 

Are you speaking about Trump? Cruz does what he says. He sticks to his principles. When his fellow Republicans go against his principles, Ted opposes them too. They don't like it. They want compromisers so they can get their pet projects done, meanwhile, the country continues to rack up debt and turns from conservative principles. Ted doesn't go along with the compromise. That is why he is not liked. Christie said Cruz was selfish. What he means is that Cruz is true to his principles and that means he can't pretend to be behind someone like Trump.

 

 

 

His integrity has put him at odds with his party.

 

 

 

In order: Yes. No. No. No. No. No. No

 

Cruz is not liked because he is self serving and he proved it, once again last night.

 

His job last night wasn't to do anything except make sure that the nominee was shown full support. He abused an extremely privileged position and that shows his true colors.

 

If he decided to not keep his word, he should have issued a retraction to the agreement that he signed his name to....he didn't.

 

Total toolbag amateur move....even the people from Texas are not happy with him

^I'd say the amateur move was letting him speak when it was crystal clear he wasn't ever going to endorse Trump.

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