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Edited July 2, 201610 yr by BIGBLUE18
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AMEN !! The emphasis placed on athletics by SOME parents borderline NUTS!

 

In today's world, if Johnny can't hit a baseball the parents hire a hitting instructor. But if Johnny struggles in math, the attitude is generally "Johnny just is not at good at math" but getting a tutor to help Johnny is never considered.

 

News Flash: Johnny / Jane may never pay a varsity sport in HS; Odds are slim to none that Johnny / Jane receive any sort of scholarship to play at the collegiate level

At the same time, Johnny / Jane will need to be able to read, write and have math skills to be successful in life.

 

IMO SOME adults need to take a step back and determine if they are doing their best to ensure their child has the skills to be successful in life and less concerned how fast Johnny / Jane can run.

 

Well said. In Ky., the overwhelming majority of kids who sign to continue their playing careers are doing so at the expensive private colleges at the NAIA and DII and DIII level. Those kids are going to need all the academic scholarship money they can get, because there are scant few free rides at that level.

AMEN !! The emphasis placed on athletics by SOME parents borderline NUTS!

 

In today's world, if Johnny can't hit a baseball the parents hire a hitting instructor. But if Johnny struggles in math, the attitude is generally "Johnny just is not at good at math" but getting a tutor to help Johnny is never considered.

 

News Flash: Johnny / Jane may never pay a varsity sport in HS; Odds are slim to none that Johnny / Jane receive any sort of scholarship to play at the collegiate level

At the same time, Johnny / Jane will need to be able to read, write and have math skills to be successful in life.

 

IMO SOME adults need to take a step back and determine if they are doing their best to ensure their child has the skills to be successful in life and less concerned how fast Johnny / Jane can run.

 

I agree 100% with you if accolades are all that parents are worried with. The biggest advantage of athletics are the discipline, respect for authority, work ethic, and leadership qualities that are attained through years of athletics. Of course this is all dependent on the coaching staffs and the program's the student athletes come up through. But, athletics definitely instill core values and characteristics that are important in the work force.

Why are we so caught up in this group of 10% of the student athlete population? At least these parents give a damn in some manner. Most in todays world dont care, and dont even know what their kids are doing.

 

As someone who sat on 3 task force in Frankfort to get the rules changed (or at least put on paper) to level the playing field for safety reasons across Kentucky, to get it to the point that holdbacks are not allowed to play from 5th through 12th grade and get age maximums for those grade groups, why cant parents try to do whats best for the kids and their dreams?

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Do what you think is best for your child. To hell with what anybody thinks either way. End of story.

 

However, I'd regret if I didn't agree with @ChiefSmoke if I didn't say that I second his motion that I've never seen holding back/starting kid(s) (boys in particular) be a negative in ANYWAY.

 

As I said in my first post...the same patents going to no end defending that their child is "young for his class" are the same ones who felt the need to start their child in school so young was because they were "so advanced for their age" (blah blah crap).

I never said hold a kid back in 8th grade and I don't believe a kid that is holding back should be allowed to participate in athletics if repeating a grade.

 

If a kid is held back in middle school or later some districts in KY will not allow you to play during that holdback year.

People mad about hold backs are people mad that their kid's team was beaten by a team with hold backs. The most passionate are folks in middle school mad that they didn't win that KHSAA state title and get that ring commemorating their middle school success. Once kids make it to high school you will see holdbacks in pretty much every single game played in every single sport. Male and female.

 

I just don't understand all the angst against hold backs.

I'll never begrudge a parent for doing what they think is best for their kid. We made all our choices based on academics. And I had a son a daughter that would have benefited athletically, although probably not enough to change their chances of getting a better college sports offer. I just think that people who are banking on that free ride for sports are setting themselves up for disappointment. There are very few free rides, and college sports are very demanding, and many more quit than make it through all 4 years. I don't see a need to change any rules regarding hold backs, simply because it would hurt the kids that truly need that extra year.

The angst to me has a few layers to it. The first is a sense of fair play. In my day -- many, many, years ago, we had no such thing. If you were a hold back around where I lived it was because of academics or some other reasons not related to sports. You played against kids your age who were in the grade they were supposed to be. Playing against younger kids in school was considered not right. That was more a middle school issue that seamed to even out in high school. People looked at it as, "whats wrong, can't you play with kids your own age?". Those days have past.

 

Another part of the angst to me is financial. A sense their kid is competing for a scholarship against someone older. As was pointed out in a show about sports holdbacks some years ago (if my aged mind recalls clearly!), that is why you hold back. To get a scholarship. And that is where I think some parents are coming from in their angst. Little Johnny is good for his age but competing for that money against someone older is unfair to them. Sorry, but that is the age we live in. Some states or areas of the country are farther ahead in promoting holdbacks and its advantages.

 

And another part is for the kid. He wants to play in as high a level as he can. Another part of the show I saw had a kid who could play in low Div I. He held back and ended up playing for an ACC school. It can work. Doesn't mean it will but some are willing to give it a shot.

 

I have heard people talk about their team being beaten by teams with lots of holdbacks. If you are wrapped up about a middle school championship get over it. Very few remember those.

 

Don't believe I know it all but just some thoughts about why a few folks could get upset about holdbacks. Not saying all are upset about holdbacks for these reasons. Could be other reasons. In a few more years down the road to me this will not be an issue because it will be more the norm and understood by more people.

 

As I agreed with on this thread earlier, parents will do what they believe will give their kid any edge they can to help them succeed. Good on them.

I agree with the posters above on the comments on middle school championships - totally worthless. I also believe this is when parents are at their worst. They don't know how good/average their child is yet, and have illusions that he/she is the greatest. Sometimes early maturity mocks them into false hope. Once they get to high school and maturity levels out for nearly all kids, the majority of them finally see where their child stands athletically. Then the complaints become more about playing time than anything else. We have all seen those middle school studs who become more of a solid contributor than any kind of next best thing.

I believe parents do what they feel is necessary for there kids. I was started in school early because my parents had trouble affording daycare. I struggled every year. I also played against kids 2 years old but it wasn't that bad. Kids are more mature but these was the same kids i played with on the streets anyway. I didnt hold my kids back but wish i had not for any reason but to give them 1 more year before they had to enter the work force. Once you leave high school life is never the same. What parent wouldn't want to have your child live with you 1 more year. I also believe it gives you another year to coach them up for the game of life. Does it help them with sports and academics absolutely. Iife isnt fair so the whole no kid left behind in school and equal playing time is setting these kids of for failure in life. I believe the older you are gives you the best chance entering college or the work force.

Too many parents are caught up in winning instead of developing and challenging their children. Play them up against older kids, that's how they get better. Holding your kid back to dominate is fools gold.

If a kid is held back in middle school or later some districts in KY will not allow you to play during that holdback year.

 

All districts now, is a state regulation, if you hold back in 6-12th grade you can not play in the holdback year.

I held both of mine back in pre-school & Kindergarten. Best way to do it.