Colleges might not care, but NFL/NBA teams do.

 

How many actually make the league? If their good enough in basketball and they're going to be one and done then they will be 18-20 when drafted regardless if they've held back. That's the idea age that all nba GMs want. NFL is a different animal. The kids are required to be 3 years removed from high school. You will never see a team shy away from a 22-23 year old draft pick. With all of this said the main priority should be whatever it takes to get a free education and let the chips fall where they may.

I have never heard a parent/child regret being held back.

 

I also think it is a decision that should be left up to individual parents who should have the right to determine what.is best for their child.

I have never heard a parent/child regret being held back.

 

I also think it is a decision that should be left up to individual parents who should have the right to determine what.is best for their child.

 

Agree 100%

How many actually make the league? If their good enough in basketball and they're going to be one and done then they will be 18-20 when drafted regardless if they've held back. That's the idea age that all nba GMs want. NFL is a different animal. The kids are required to be 3 years removed from high school. You will never see a team shy away from a 23 year old draft pick(not so much 22). With all of this said the main priority should be whatever it takes to get a free education and let the chips fall where they may.

 

Its miniscule to make the league, but how many schools use education as a recruiting tool. I mean look through the twittwr feeds of major college programs they're not selling free education, they're selling look who we have at the next level. Have you seen the recruiting letters they send out to a prospect where they've photoshopped him at the NFL draft? Actually teams will shy away from 22-23yo draft picks, look it up there's even an article on how the Bengals like to draft young. Like ATLCAT said football is all about shelf life.

That's great and your son was definitely farther ahead academically at an early age. However, I was trying to state that the kids that aren't at the top of their class can still take advantage of this. Our middle school (7-8th) offers Basic Math (7th grade), Pre-Algebra (8th grade), Algebra (9th), and Geometry (10th grade). Usually the majority of advanced kids only test up 1 grade level. It's rare when incoming 7th graders test out of basic math and pre-algebra. So most advanced kids end up getting Algebra done in middle school which speeds up their math courses in high school. I was referring to the opportunity for those kids to take pre-algebra as a 7th grader, Algebra as a holdback 7th grader, and geometry as an 8th grader. This can be done with other subjects I'm just familiar with the math. This ensures the student can begin with Algebra 2 as a freshman and Calculus as a sophomore which would allow dual credit courses as a junior. As you said all kids are different, but there are definite advantages.

 

The problem is most public school districts will not allow you to hold a kid back that is meeting or above academic standards, and if they did, that child likely wouldn't have access to the classes you mention. And they'd still have to repeat the course material for the grade level they would be repeating. Think about it...hold your kid back in 8th grade, and then ask to schedule advance classes...ain't gonna happen. In addition, he/she would likely be unable to participate in any sports the year they repeat.

 

The holdback now has to happen early or before starting school, or will require a change in schools.

It's grey area cheating. You are trying to give your kids a physical advantage not by genetics or hard work but by age and maturity. You're using a loophole to allow your older kids to compete with younger kids. At 13-15 a year makes a difference. You're victories are cheapened.

Its miniscule to make the league, but how many schools use education as a recruiting tool. I mean look through the twittwr feeds of major college programs they're not selling free education, they're selling look who we have at the next level. Have you seen the recruiting letters they send out to a prospect where they've photoshopped him at the NFL draft? Actually teams will shy away from 22-23yo draft picks, look it up there's even an article on how the Bengals like to draft young. Like ATLCAT said football is all about shelf life.

 

I follow football very closely so I know NFL teams don't shy away from 22-23 year old draft picks. However, I had already looked it up just to be able to back up my statements. Maybe you should check it out. Check the different drafts.

 

National Football League: NFL Draft History

The problem is most public school districts will not allow you to hold a kid back that is meeting or above academic standards, and if they did, that child likely wouldn't have access to the classes you mention. And they'd still have to repeat the course material for the grade level they would be repeating. Think about it...hold your kid back in 8th grade, and then ask to schedule advance classes...ain't gonna happen. In addition, he/she would likely be unable to participate in any sports the year they repeat.

 

The holdback now has to happen early or before starting school, or will require a change in schools.

 

I never said hold a kid back in 8th grade and I don't believe a kid that is holding back should be allowed to participate in athletics if repeating a grade.

The ONLY legitimate reason to hold a kid back is if he/she has academic deficiencies.

How many Middle Schools are thumping their chests about how many championships they have won playing with Freshmen against kids 1-2 years younger?

I follow football very closely so I know NFL teams don't shy away from 22-23 year old draft picks. However, I had already looked it up just to be able to back up my statements. Maybe you should check it out. Check the different drafts.

 

National Football League: NFL Draft History

 

So 7 of the top 10 picks in the link were 20/21 when they were drafted...good research man. 22 isn't as bad as 23.

If people think it is a problem, change the eligibility rule. Simple change - if a player turns 19 before the end of the season, he/she is not eligible to play that season.

So 7 of the top 10 picks in the link were 20/21 when they were drafted...good research man. 22 isn't as bad as 23.

 

Each draft is different, but since you're using last years top 10 as your example 3 played their rookie season at the age of 23, 1 at the age of 22, and the other six at the age of 21. No one played their rookie season as a 20 year old last season. So 40% of the top 10 were 22-23 yet GMs are shying away.... That doesn't even account for the guys in the later rounds.

Athletically my oldest son would have benefited from being held back. Academically, it would not have been good for him. Each kid is different, and so very few kids get that athletic scholly...academics should be the first priority. Parents that redshirt for athletic reasons only have their priorities a little backwards.

 

AMEN !! The emphasis placed on athletics by SOME parents borderline NUTS!

 

In today's world, if Johnny can't hit a baseball the parents hire a hitting instructor. But if Johnny struggles in math, the attitude is generally "Johnny just is not at good at math" but getting a tutor to help Johnny is never considered.

 

News Flash: Johnny / Jane may never pay a varsity sport in HS; Odds are slim to none that Johnny / Jane receive any sort of scholarship to play at the collegiate level

At the same time, Johnny / Jane will need to be able to read, write and have math skills to be successful in life.

 

IMO SOME adults need to take a step back and determine if they are doing their best to ensure their child has the skills to be successful in life and less concerned how fast Johnny / Jane can run.

AMEN !! The emphasis placed on athletics by SOME parents borderline NUTS!

 

In today's world, if Johnny can't hit a baseball the parents hire a hitting instructor. But if Johnny struggles in math, the attitude is generally "Johnny just is not at good at math" but getting a tutor to help Johnny is never considered.

 

News Flash: Johnny / Jane may never pay a varsity sport in HS; Odds are slim to none that Johnny / Jane receive any sort of scholarship to play at the collegiate level

At the same time, Johnny / Jane will need to be able to read, write and have math skills to be successful in life.

 

IMO SOME adults need to take a step back and determine if they are doing their best to ensure their child has the skills to be successful in life and less concerned how fast Johnny / Jane can run.

 

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