June 16, 201610 yr Again, @hoops5, did you not read the article I posted? Holding Disney liable is going to be very difficult.
June 16, 201610 yr Who honestly thinks "No Swimming" means don't let your feet touch the water? Here is a picture from a Disney on-Line Flyer from that beach...at least one kid has he feet in the edge of the water. None of these kids are "Swimming" but at least a few of them are within reach of a quick Gator grab. I think the point some are making is that if it is that dangerous, then there should have been greater warnings or access could have been totally blocked. But Disney seems to promote at least playing in the edge of the water by posting pictures such as these on their promotional materials.
June 16, 201610 yr It would be both irresponsible and wrong NOT to hold Disney accountable to increase safety coming out of all this.
June 16, 201610 yr ^If it says no swimming somewhere, I'm not touching the water. Maybe I'm weird, though.
June 16, 201610 yr It would be both irresponsible and wrong NOT to hold Disney accountable to increase safety coming out of all this. If there was a sign of an alligator, would you still be saying Disney is liable?
June 16, 201610 yr It would be both irresponsible and wrong NOT to hold Disney accountable to increase safety coming out of all this. I guarantee they'll have signs plastered all over the place as a result. I'd also be willing to bet that even if they had those signs in place, the same people that are wanting to hold them liable right now, would still think the same way.
June 16, 201610 yr Again, @hoops5, did you not read the article I posted? Holding Disney liable is going to be very difficult. No it's not. If you look at pictures of the location, there are beach chairs and umbrellas lining that sandy beach. That means it's a location that guests are welcome to enter and when they enter, guests assume it is a safe place to be because Disney operates it. Were they aware of the potential dangers lurking in their lake? Yes. Did Disney warn of potential danger there? No. Disney will end up settling this case to make it go away.
June 16, 201610 yr No it's not. If you look at pictures of the location, there are beach chairs and umbrellas lining that sandy beach. That means it's a location that guests are welcome to enter and when they enter, guests assume it is a safe place to be because Disney operates it. Were they aware of the potential dangers lurking in their lake? Yes. Did Disney warn of potential danger there? No. Disney will end up settling this case to make it go away. The no swimming signs are telling guests it's not a safe place to be. The article was very clear that it's going to be difficult to hold them liable. Not sure how you can read it and not come to that conclusion.
June 16, 201610 yr If there was a picture of an alligator, people would still fault Disney. Fact. Probably the same people that are doing it now. To the bolded, that is the exact same thing as a No Swimming sign. If you go to Florida and don't know about alligators (either prior or very soon after you arrive), you just aren't paying attention. It is virtually impossible to go to Florida and not be alerted to the presence of alligators. So you are a family from Germany (or land locked Nebraska) who just flew into Orlando for the sole purpose to go to Disney World. Never ever been to Florida before. You get your limo ride from the airport straight to the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa, or the Polynesian, or the Beach Club Resort. You get to your room, and look outside at the beautiful beach out of your window. Heck, your room has veranda doors that allow you to walk right on to that sand. Sign says, "No swimming". You don't swim. But man that is a beautiful beach with cabana chairs and sand. Your kids play in the sand and get close to the waters edge. Really close. You are holding the little one's hand and he pulls you to the waters edge to put his feet in. Stupid, dumb, negligent parent who was not thinking about alligators...........
June 16, 201610 yr If there was a sign of an alligator, would you still be saying Disney is liable? I imagine Disney will use way more than an alligator pic to avoid future liability…
June 16, 201610 yr I imagine Disney will use way more than an alligator pic to avoid future liability… Doesn't answer my question.
June 16, 201610 yr So you are a family from Germany (or land locked Nebraska) who just flew into Orlando for the sole purpose to go to Disney World. Never ever been to Florida before. You get your limo ride from the airport straight to the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa, or the Polynesian, or the Beach Club Resort. You get to your room, and look outside at the beautiful beach out of your window. Heck, your room has veranda doors that allow you to walk right on to that sand. Sign says, "No swimming". You don't swim. But man that is a beautiful beach with cabana chairs and sand. Your kids play in the sand and get close to the waters edge. Really close. You are holding the little one's hand and he pulls you to the waters edge to put his feet in. Stupid, dumb, negligent parent who was not thinking about alligators........... The next time you go to Florida, see how often you see signage about alligators. I'll say again, it is virtually impossible for anyone, regardless of where they are from, to not be made aware of the presence of alligators.
June 16, 201610 yr So you are a family from Germany (or land locked Nebraska) who just flew into Orlando for the sole purpose to go to Disney World. Never ever been to Florida before. You get your limo ride from the airport straight to the Grand Floridian Resort and Spa, or the Polynesian, or the Beach Club Resort. You get to your room, and look outside at the beautiful beach out of your window. Heck, your room has veranda doors that allow you to walk right on to that sand. Sign says, "No swimming". You don't swim. But man that is a beautiful beach with cabana chairs and sand. Your kids play in the sand and get close to the waters edge. Really close. You are holding the little one's hand and he pulls you to the waters edge to put his feet in. Stupid, dumb, negligent parent who was not thinking about alligators........... This whole where they're from thing you keep bringing up is irrelevant. Florida is known for alligators. How is it that I'm from KY and know that gators are everywhere in Florida, but it's absurd to think that people from other places around the country would know?
June 16, 201610 yr Who honestly thinks "No Swimming" means don't let your feet touch the water? Here is a picture from a Disney on-Line Flyer from that beach...at least one kid has he feet in the edge of the water. None of these kids are "Swimming" but at least a few of them are within reach of a quick Gator grab. I think the point some are making is that if it is that dangerous, then there should have been greater warnings or access could have been totally blocked. But Disney seems to promote at least playing in the edge of the water by posting pictures such as these on their promotional materials. Once again, @Jumper_Dad comes through. This is exactly what I am talking about. In fact, those are my kids right there in the picture.
June 16, 201610 yr @Wireman, @UKMustangFan, @MJAlltheWay24, @HHSHOG62---I have respectfully enjoyed our back and forth exchanges in this thread. Appreciate all your input. :thumb:
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