June 16, 201610 yr Where is the beach in this picture? This setting is NOT the same as the setting at the Grand Floridian BEACH resort. And why do they call it a BEACH resort? Those are pretty ridiculous questions, but I'll humor you: The resort is ACTUALLY (I know how to use caps too!) called "Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa." NO mention of a beach. Also, those signs are posted in several locations around each body of water.
June 16, 201610 yr And yet....They had a sign up that said to not go in the water. Family ignored the warning, and went into the water. Would you allow your kids to go in the water if there was a clear sign that said to not do so? And it's Florida. Everyone with a brain knows that there are alligators in bodies of water in Florida. No. I would not let my kids go IN the water. Why? Because I'm a rule follower and I would have been afraid of getting reprimanded by the BEACH resort staff. NOT because I was concerned about gators. I'm a stupid Wisconsin person who learned how to swim in lakes. It was not at the forefront of my mind that there are gators is
June 16, 201610 yr There aren't signs around Hilton Head Island warning of giant killers swimming in the water right off the beach, but I have caught probably 30 sharks now that have weighed more than 100 lbs. Does this mean I can sue HHI if one of these sharks bites me while I'm swimming in THEIR natural habitat? That question has been asked multiple times, and ignored every single time.
June 16, 201610 yr I'm going to come to some of you folks' house, break the rules, and then sue you when something happens to me. :lol2: Doesn't that happen a lot with swimming pools? Isn't the owner supposed to make an effort to keep unwanted kids/adults out and if they don't they can be liable for having an enticing attraction? Sounds pretty similar to the Disney case. IMO Disney will pay big $$$ and have to take action even though the was signage for no swimming. My guess is at least gator warning signs and more likely fencing to keep people out of the water.
June 16, 201610 yr Those are pretty ridiculous questions, but I'll humor you: The resort is ACTUALLY (I know how to use caps too!) called "Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa." NO mention of a beach. Also, those signs are posted in several locations around each body of water. You are correct. My apologies. There is a Disney Beach Resort also on the grounds, that's what I was thinking of. Sorry.
June 16, 201610 yr Are Hotels Liable for Alligator Attacks? Based on this, it's going to be a stretch to prove the resort was liable.
June 16, 201610 yr Disney will pay to get this behind them as quick as possible. They don't want this drug out any further in court than it has to be. But will someone explain why it matters that it was a BEACH? Lot's of lakes have BEACHES. The movie Lake Placid even had a BEACH.
June 16, 201610 yr Disney will pay to get this behind them as quick as possible. They don't want this drug out any further in court than it has to be. But will someone explain why it matters that it was a BEACH? Lot's of lakes have BEACHES. The movie Lake Placid even had a BEACH. Two things that are irrelevant... 1) it's a beach and 2) it's man-made.
June 16, 201610 yr There are always boats and fisherman fishing that lagoon when I take the ferry boat to magic kingdom.
June 16, 201610 yr I have failed to make my point here. Saw these comments on fb that express what I am saying: "People are aware that there's lots of saltwater in and around Florida and alligators can't survive in it. That is another reason to warn people, at a resort, that the beautiful beach outside their window is purely decoration. Usually people who visit Florida expect saltwater at the beaches." "No swimming sounds just like a caution. If it's a coded message for "alligators in the water", say, "DANGER STAY AWAY. ALLIGATORS PRESENT" The zoo keeps a safe barrier between the gators and visitors. It's just crazy that dangerous predators have free access and are permanent residents of this supposedly kid friendly, expensive resort." (I love this one.) "Have you actually seen the place it happened? It was a small beach literally in the backyard of a hotel where movies are shown. "No swimming" doesn't mean stay out of the water btw. Now an alligator warning sign? THAT would mean stay out of the water and stay on beach with caution which is probably the exact reason there isn't a sign warning of alligators. Who wants to spend that much on a resort where it's dangerous to go near the beach outside your window?" " I agree!! I saw the pics and I will bet you the family was watching the movie and the little one got restless so Dad took him to the waters edge away from the movie goers. So sad! Yes there should have been signs saying Keep out possible alligators but then again the fancy resort couldn't say that!! This is so sad." "No swimming could mean many things. It could be because there are no lifeguards on duty or any number of reasons. Not every one knows there are gators in Florida. Plus, they were on Disney property, a place where you can assume you are safe." " I myself would have no idea gators would be in this man made resort lake. Please, please post signs. Prayers for his family." "This family is from Nebraska so what would make you think they would assume there were alligators in the water? I'm from Ohio and no, my first thought would not be hey maybe there are alligators in this man made lake in the center of an amusement park designed for small children and their families! So all of you who live in your big glass houses should reconsider publicly shaming this family on social media especially since they have just lost a child. You don't think they feel guilt? The father had lacerations all over his arms from trying to free the child from its mouth. " "Now that this family has suffered this terrible tragic accident -- and my heart is broken for them -- I would like to see signage with no words...just a picture of an alligator is sufficient." Edited June 16, 201610 yr by hoops5
June 16, 201610 yr I have failed to make my point here. Saw these comments on fb that express what I am saying: "People are aware that there's lots of saltwater in and around Florida and alligators can't survive in it. That is another reason to warn people, at a resort, that the beautiful beach outside their window is purely decoration. Usually people who visit Florida expect saltwater at the beaches." "No swimming sounds just like a caution. If it's a coded message for "alligators in the water", say, "DANGER STAY AWAY. ALLIGATORS PRESENT" The zoo keeps a safe barrier between the gators and visitors. It's just crazy that dangerous predators have free access and are permanent residents of this supposedly kid friendly, expensive resort." (I love this one.) "Have you actually seen the place it happened? It was a small beach literally in the backyard of a hotel where movies are shown. "No swimming" doesn't mean stay out of the water btw. Now an alligator warning sign? THAT would mean stay out of the water and stay on beach with caution which is probably the exact reason there isn't a sign warning of alligators. Who wants to spend that much on a resort where it's dangerous to go near the beach outside your window?" " I agree!! I saw the pics and I will bet you the family was watching the movie and the little one got restless so Dad took him to the waters edge away from the movie goers. So sad! Yes there should have been signs saying Keep out possible alligators but then again the fancy resort couldn't say that!! This is so sad." "No swimming could mean many things. It could be because there are no lifeguards on duty or any number of reasons. Not every one knows there are gators in Florida. Plus, they were on Disney property, a place where you can assume you are safe." " I myself would have no idea gators would be in this man made resort lake. Please, please post signs. Prayers for his family." "This family is from Nebraska so what would make you think they would assume there were alligators in the water? I'm from Ohio and no, my first thought would not be hey maybe there are alligators in this man made lake in the center of an amusement park designed for small children and their families! So all of you who live in your big glass houses should reconsider publicly shaming this family on social media especially since they have just lost a child. You don't think they feel guilt? The father had lacerations all over his arms from trying to free the child from its mouth. " "Now that this family has suffered this terrible tragic accident -- and my heart is broken for them -- I would like to see signage with no words...just a picture of an alligator is sufficient." "No Swimming" does not sound like caution. "No Swimming" sounds like a direct command to not swim.
June 16, 201610 yr I have failed to make my point here. Saw these comments on fb that express what I am saying: "People are aware that there's lots of saltwater in and around Florida and alligators can't survive in it. That is another reason to warn people, at a resort, that the beautiful beach outside their window is purely decoration. Usually people who visit Florida expect saltwater at the beaches." "No swimming sounds just like a caution. If it's a coded message for "alligators in the water", say, "DANGER STAY AWAY. ALLIGATORS PRESENT" The zoo keeps a safe barrier between the gators and visitors. It's just crazy that dangerous predators have free access and are permanent residents of this supposedly kid friendly, expensive resort." (I love this one.) "Have you actually seen the place it happened? It was a small beach literally in the backyard of a hotel where movies are shown. "No swimming" doesn't mean stay out of the water btw. Now an alligator warning sign? THAT would mean stay out of the water and stay on beach with caution which is probably the exact reason there isn't a sign warning of alligators. Who wants to spend that much on a resort where it's dangerous to go near the beach outside your window?" " I agree!! I saw the pics and I will bet you the family was watching the movie and the little one got restless so Dad took him to the waters edge away from the movie goers. So sad! Yes there should have been signs saying Keep out possible alligators but then again the fancy resort couldn't say that!! This is so sad." "No swimming could mean many things. It could be because there are no lifeguards on duty or any number of reasons. Not every one knows there are gators in Florida. Plus, they were on Disney property, a place where you can assume you are safe." " I myself would have no idea gators would be in this man made resort lake. Please, please post signs. Prayers for his family." "This family is from Nebraska so what would make you think they would assume there were alligators in the water? I'm from Ohio and no, my first thought would not be hey maybe there are alligators in this man made lake in the center of an amusement park designed for small children and their families! So all of you who live in your big glass houses should reconsider publicly shaming this family on social media especially since they have just lost a child. You don't think they feel guilt? The father had lacerations all over his arms from trying to free the child from its mouth. " "Now that this family has suffered this terrible tragic accident -- and my heart is broken for them -- I would like to see signage with no words...just a picture of an alligator is sufficient." It doesn't matter WHY it says no swimming. It isn't up to you to decided whether it is justified or not. if the park tells you not to swim in a certain area, you don't do it.
June 16, 201610 yr I'm sorry, but how does anyone with common sense not know there are alligators in Florida? And did you not read the article I posted about liability? It'd be very hard to prove. I don't think Disney will be made to pay a dime, nor should they IMO.
June 16, 201610 yr Has anyone questioned WHY Disney creates luxury resorts with beautiful sand beaches where they truck in all this sand, place hammocks and beach chairs on it, encouraging people to hang out on the beach? Is it because it looks beautiful in the brochure and encourages guests to go and sit and enjoy said beaches, while paying >$500 per night----yet NEVER TELLING GUESTS that there are deadly killers in Disney is totally liable and will pay. You didn't answer his question, so I'm going to assume you would let your kids into the water. Which makes sense considering your stance here.
June 16, 201610 yr I'm sorry, but how does anyone with common sense not know there are alligators in Florida? I'm sayin'... To be blunt, if you are in Florida and don't expect alligators to be in the water you are either an idiot, or ridiculously naive. People just absolutely refuse to accept responsibility.
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