February 5, 201610 yr I will say this makes sense if all you care about is the program and not the kids. I mean if I was advising what is best for the program this is the correct move. Probably every university in America would do the same. But when a program does something like this it's hard to look a parent in the eye and say your kid matters most. Again so we are clear I'm not saying if I was in leadership I'd do anything different. But the move clearly says Louisville cares more about the brand than the kids wearing the jersey. Ramsey's job is to minimize long-term problems from the NCAA on behalf of the trustees, supporters, and alumni. They wouldn't have done this if Chuck Smrt hadn't advised them that this is what the NCAA wants. Take it up with them.
February 5, 201610 yr Only Dan Dakich could unite UL fans, UK fans, and Matt Jones. Good one....:lol2:
February 5, 201610 yr I'll say this too: I've seen a lot of people say postseason bans punish innocent players but yet to see anyone else offer reasonable solution to pacify an unpredictable NCAA.
February 5, 201610 yr Ramsey's job is to minimize long-term problems from the NCAA on behalf of the trustees, supporters, and alumni. They wouldn't have done this if Chuck Smrt hadn't advised them that this is what the NCAA wants. Take it up with them. I totally get that and if I was Smrt I'd recommend the same thing. My point was more about PR for the next coach. The coach an hour away east has a program he calls players first. This self imposed ban makes recruiting against Louisville easier. Obviously I'm a UK fan so I'm sure someone will comment and say I'm biased. Which I can't deny. I was just pointing out obvious optics. I'd also add if the NCAA is really this close to punishing the cards and still nothing on UNC , it's a joke.
February 5, 201610 yr I'll say this too: I've seen a lot of people say postseason bans punish innocent players but yet to see anyone else offer reasonable solution to pacify an unpredictable NCAA. I could think of a unique PR campaign that would be original on this specific allegation. . The best way to win over the public is to make NCAA look bad, the NCAA cares about it's image.
February 5, 201610 yr Jones seems to have an insider at UL feeding him info. Yes he does, it's a fact.
February 5, 201610 yr That's just not true. Plenty of people on this site alone hate the guy. I've caught that drift and pretty much excluded the folks on here
February 5, 201610 yr Or a genius. Not the way I would want to make $, but if you find a rabid, myopic fan base and you feed it meat in order to make $, good for you. Economic darwinism. Bill Cunningham has done it on 700WLW for years! Touché my friend.
February 5, 201610 yr :lol2: The guy is a tool to be sure, but he's brilliant. He's made a fortune off being a fan. Sadly he has. I wish I could do the same.
February 5, 201610 yr I totally get that and if I was Smrt I'd recommend the same thing. My point was more about PR for the next coach. The coach an hour away east has a program he calls players first. This self imposed ban makes recruiting against Louisville easier. And if Louisville does nothing now? Or acts in any way the NCAA deems unsatisfactory? How bad would it be then? If there were long-term punishments it would be awfully easy to recruit against Louisville. That's one of the things they're trying to avoid.
February 5, 201610 yr And if Louisville does nothing now? Or acts in any way the NCAA deems unsatisfactory? How bad would it be then? I think punishment could get harsher but I think their is a legit PR spin the university could make with recruits. Like I said as a business person I understand the move. You have to be agnostic and think of the brand. I just would like to see a different approach from a University one time and fight back. Flip the script on the NCAA. Make Rick step down and make it known in the media the reason you aren't doing a ban is for the players. Win public support. It will probably fail but I think it would win credibility in recruiting circles.
February 5, 201610 yr Ramsey's job is to minimize long-term problems from the NCAA on behalf of the trustees, supporters, and alumni. They wouldn't have done this if Chuck Smrt hadn't advised them that this is what the NCAA wants. Take it up with them. Ramsey is a crook, you have essentially said the same yourself. While I agree that what he is doing with this self "punishment" is part of his job, it's a bit ironic to see you running to his defense lol.
February 5, 201610 yr I'll say this too: I've seen a lot of people say postseason bans punish innocent players but yet to see anyone else offer reasonable solution to pacify an unpredictable NCAA. To be honest the only solution would be to ban coaches, AD's, etc that was there during the violations. I'm not saying that would be right, but I imagine it would be a good deterrent to help prevent future violations. Post season bans don't solve the problem one bit.
February 5, 201610 yr I think punishment could get harsher but I think their is a legit PR spin the university could make with recruits. Like I said as a business person I understand the move. You have to be agnostic and think of the brand. I just would like to see a different approach from a University one time and fight back. Flip the script on the NCAA. Make Rick step down and make it known in the media the reason you aren't doing a ban is for the players. Win public support. It will probably fail but I think it would win credibility in recruiting circles. If I thought it would work at all, I'd agree with you. I think the best proposal I saw was this: 1) suspend Pitino, 2) no postseason ban, 3) voluntarily surrender their share of NCAA tournament profits. It's an interesting one I'd go along with, but who knows what the scumbag university presidents running the NCAA would say.
February 5, 201610 yr If I thought it would work at all, I'd agree with you. I think the best proposal I saw was this: 1) suspend Pitino, 2) no postseason ban, 3) voluntarily surrender their share of NCAA tournament profits. It's an interesting one I'd go along with, but who knows what the scumbag university presidents running the NCAA would say. In the era of the PC police on social media anything is possible. This isn't the 1990s. Heck it's different than the early 2000's. Some University will step up at some point.
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