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Belfry vs. Newport Central Catholic

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Better player for Beechwood? Okay...

 

I just hadn't inferred that from the past 2 or three seasons... I have always seen an "even" matchup with some evidence (thru posters) that Beechwood won in the headset.

 

Why would you believe "posters"?

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Better player for Beechwood? Okay...

 

I just hadn't inferred that from the past 2 or three seasons... I have always seen an "even" matchup with some evidence (thru posters) that Beechwood won in the headset.

 

That has pretty much been the consensus from most people (that doesn't mean the NCC faithful--they have been pretty classy when it comes to that game).

 

But--the Beechwood PLAYERS never really got the credit that they deserved out of it. NCC has been talked up for having more talent since 2002. Yet--NCC has won once or maybe twice in that period (and it isn't like they were only playing once a year either).

 

The only thing that I will say is that Beechwood plays balanced football. . . . . .

Better players?

 

(Unless somehow NCC coaches suddenly got real intelligent in the last 8 games)

 

Actually it was a combination of both. The talent has been split pretty even through the years with a huge disparity of talent in the '91 in favor of Beechwood, '97 again in favor of Beechwood, and then in '01 in favor of NewCath. Overall, the games have been played on equal playing fields talent-wise with the exception of Yeagle and his staff making the in-game adjustments needed to win, and usually win big. NewCath's coaching and game planning has taken a quantum leap since the end of the '00 season and now you see games that could go either way, with Beechwood seeming to make the fewest mistakes as of late.

To expand on my last post. Nobody would say OC, Lloyd 03', Russell 04', or Pburg 03',04' were poor run defense teams.

 

That being said. There is some ground on which to make a claim THIS Pirate team can be stopped. It is game 1 and they have not proven any ability to move the ball thus far this season. Still 87 yds? Ludlow will rush for that against the Breds.

 

Lloyd in '03 was a bad run defense. NewCath ran all over them four weeks before they played Belfry.

Good point.. Sneider didn't get to 302 by luck.

 

I just hope for a good game. NCC will likely repeat in 1a. So if the Pirates pod pads, move the ball, and play decent football, I will be satisfied.

 

In the past, I have said that Owensboro Catholic hadn't seen the "smashmouth football" of a tuff mountain team. Apparently NCC knows it, plays it, and likes it.

 

Belfry will certainly put to a substantial test in week 1. I love it!

That has pretty much been the consensus from most people (that doesn't mean the NCC faithful--they have been pretty classy when it comes to that game).

 

But--the Beechwood PLAYERS never really got the credit that they deserved out of it. NCC has been talked up for having more talent since 2002. Yet--NCC has won once or maybe twice in that period (and it isn't like they were only playing once a year either).

 

The only thing that I will say is that Beechwood plays balanced football. . . . . .

 

And NewCath doesn't??? 171.7 yards rushing a game/171.4 passing per game last year. The main difference is that Beechwood has made the plays and NewCath hasn't lately.

I love it too.. I just think this game will be competitive.. I really hope for a Pirate win, but if they are competitive with NCC this early then I will be happy..

Actually it was a combination of both. The talent has been split pretty even through the years with a huge disparity of talent in the '91 in favor of Beechwood, '97 again in favor of Beechwood, and then in '01 in favor of NewCath. Overall, the games have been played on equal playing fields talent-wise with the exception of Yeagle and his staff making the in-game adjustments needed to win, and usually win big. NewCath's coaching and game planning has taken a quantum leap since the end of the '00 season and now you see games that could go either way, with Beechwood seeming to make the fewest mistakes as of late.

 

IMO I would say Beechwood has a quantum talent advantage in 97 and 98 and 99 and an narrow advantage in 00. NCC had an advantage in 01. Beechwood a narrow advantage in 02. Even in 03, 04. NCC slight advantage in 05 (especially at the end of the season).

 

From Ryan Ernst' (Enquirer NKY Prep reporter) internet chat:

 

Ryan: Who is the best head coach in NKY right now? And who has the best coaching staff?

 

Ryan Ernst

 

I'm not a coach, so I kind of have to go off what they tell me. I can tell you that Tom Spritzky at Dixie is probably the most respected for his x's and o's approach to the game. Dale Mueller at Highlands is probably the best motivators. It's hard to argue with NewCath coach Bob Schneider, the state's all-time wins leader. Also, I think Schneider has the best staff. What they did with last year's team down the stretch was unbelievable.

IMO I would say Beechwood has a quantum talent advantage in 97 and 98 and 99 and an narrow advantage in 00. NCC had an advantage in 01. Beechwood a narrow advantage in 02. Even in 03, 04. NCC slight advantage in 05 (especially at the end of the season).

 

From Ryan Ernst' (Enquirer NKY Prep reporter) internet chat:

 

Ryan: Who is the best head coach in NKY right now? And who has the best coaching staff?

 

Ryan Ernst

 

I'm not a coach, so I kind of have to go off what they tell me. I can tell you that Tom Spritzky at Dixie is probably the most respected for his x's and o's approach to the game. Dale Mueller at Highlands is probably the best motivators. It's hard to argue with NewCath coach Bob Schneider, the state's all-time wins leader. Also, I think Schneider has the best staff. What they did with last year's team down the stretch was unbelievable.

 

I'll give you the late '90's. The key word in that chat with Ernst is NewCath's staff. They are truly amazing. It's set up a lot like Florida St. Dave Schneider calls the offense, Wagner the Defense and Mr. Schneider makes the crucial decisions, just like you'll find at Highlands.

I can eat crow with the best of them, But ask the Aces of O'cath and The Red Devils of Russell.. you might know what the Pirates are doing and you might stack the box.. but I highly doubt a team is going to shut down Belfry's run, I am not saying Belfry is invincible, Russell beat us last year, but they didn't hold the Pirates down either and neither do I think NCC will.

 

 

The Red Devils eeked out a win last yr over Newport because I guy shanked an extra point or something. That same Newport team lost to Nc by about 40 pts last year. I'm not a Newcath fan by any means, but I know they will whip poor old Belfry.

87 yards? I would be my debt double or nothing against that proposition. There is a defense that plays best against the Pirates tho, and many teams fail to recognize the scheme.

 

I for one am hoping NCC plays D the way I think they might.

From what I seen last year their defense doesnt play to Belfrys disadvantage. They are excellent on defense but if your talking bout the weakness that really showed against Breathitt then no I didnt see that last year when I saw them play.

To another poster who was talking about speed from what I heard this Belfry team is fairly quick. The coaches told me they thought they was quicker than they had been in a while. That is talking more about the line and defense I think than the backfield.

From waht I understand Coach Haywood said that these two teams are very evenly matched and it is going to be a battle all the way through.

Probably won't get to post tomorrow, so...

 

Go Belfry, from this Pikeville fan!!! I will be on hand to see this one!!!

It's set up a lot like Florida St. Dave Schneider calls the offense, Wagner the Defense and Mr. Schneider makes the crucial decisions, just like you'll find at Highlands.

Neither NCC, Highlands, nor Florida St have a patent on the offensive guy calling offensive plays, defensive coordinator calling the def sets and the head coach making the tough calls.

That's the way Most programs have run things for years.

Neither NCC, Highlands, nor Florida St have a patent on the offensive guy calling offensive plays, defensive coordinator calling the def sets and the head coach making the tough calls.

That's the way Most programs have run things for years.

 

I know this, I was bringing up examples, not citing them as exceptions.

The Red Devils eeked out a win last yr over Newport because I guy shanked an extra point or something. That same Newport team lost to Nc by about 40 pts last year. I'm not a Newcath fan by any means, but I know they will whip poor old Belfry.

 

Just to clarify and not be a jerk. The extra point was blocked.

 

As with any team on any given Friday night you cannot make comparisons of who beat who and when they beat them. Maybe Newport had an off night and NCC played extremely well that night. It all goes back to the saying that anyone can win on any given night.

 

Oh and BTW whether it was 1 point or 40 Russell still won on that particular Friday night and advanced to Louisville.:fire:

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