October 5, 201511 yr In most places, you can be fired for good reason, bad reason or no reason at all.
October 5, 201511 yr Relevant here: So Youve Been Publicly Shamed: Jon Ronson It's a good read and cautions against the mob justice approach. With that said I don't have much sympathy for these folks, but I also don't know if tracking people down and finding their workplaces is the best way to handle these things. It's not really tracking them down if they put it all online is it?
October 5, 201511 yr I bet those guys couldn't have been fired if they were union. Where do you draw the line? Can I fire employees if they continually spout off on Facebook about the President and I disagree? Can I fire employees if they have a confederate flag as their profile picture? Can I fire employees if they are telling everyone to get saved or they are going to heck on their Facebook page? Can I fire employees if they call me (their boss) names on Social Media? Can I fire an employee if a customer comes in and says they yelled obscenities at a ref during the football game last Friday and they have it on video? Can I fire an employee for repeating a really bad Eddie Murphy joke on line? Can I fire an employee for dressing as Hitler, Osama Bin Laden or a Klansman for Halloween...then go to a party and their photo ends up on social media? I am not a Human Resource person, but I believe you bring up valid situations with these examples. I am not sure you could in some places, especially those with unions, as you said. There may be case where you could, but if I proclaimed I am an atheist and worked at IBM, Why would they? I don't think you would win. You may get rid of me, but it might be very very costly.
October 5, 201511 yr I bet those guys couldn't have been fired if they were union. Where do you draw the line? Can I fire employees if they continually spout off on Facebook about the President and I disagree? Can I fire employees if they have a confederate flag as their profile picture? Can I fire employees if they are telling everyone to get saved or they are going to heck on their Facebook page? Can I fire employees if they call me (their boss) names on Social Media? Can I fire an employee if a customer comes in and says they yelled obscenities at a ref during the football game last Friday and they have it on video? Can I fire an employee for repeating a really bad Eddie Murphy joke on line? Can I fire an employee for dressing as Hitler, Osama Bin Laden or a Klansman for Halloween...then go to a party and their photo ends up on social media? False. We have had employees fired and disciplined over comments on Myspace and Facebook.
October 5, 201511 yr False. We have had employees fired and disciplined over comments on Myspace and Facebook. I assume those were directly related to or about the company? Had a seminar a few weeks ago that spoke about this very thing, examples (real life cases) of what is protected and what isn't.
October 5, 201511 yr I think people often get confused when we talk about being able to fire someone. In most cases, non protected classes can be fired without reason. That means the company would win a lawsuit brought against it for unlawful termination, it doesn't mean they would win an unemployment hearing.
October 5, 201511 yr I assume those were directly related to or about the company? Had a seminar a few weeks ago that spoke about this very thing, examples (real life cases) of what is protected and what isn't. Yes and no. One was fired for talking about other employees. Others have been disciplined for talking about the company online. One was a vague post during a tense time at work and that person was questioned but no discipline.
October 5, 201511 yr As you can guess I'm pro gun, I never post any of my guns or me training with them. I should be able too but can't in today's world.
October 5, 201511 yr As you can guess I'm pro gun, I never post any of my guns or me training with them. I should be able too but can't in today's world. One of the folks I spoke of posted a picture of his gun. He didn't get in trouble but he was called to the office.
October 5, 201511 yr One of the folks I spoke of posted a picture of his gun. He didn't get in trouble but he was called to the office. During my time as a union V.P., I had the displeasure of escorting 2 people out of our office who actually brought a gun to work.
October 5, 201511 yr One of the folks I spoke of posted a picture of his gun. He didn't get in trouble but he was called to the office. That is absolutely ridiculous!
October 5, 201511 yr That is absolutely ridiculous! Uhhh, nah, I said he posted a picture of his gun. I didn't say what he said when he posted it. He's probably lucky he didn't get in trouble.
October 6, 201511 yr That is absolutely ridiculous! What if he posted the picture with the caption, "next person that crosses me" or something of that nature? Still ridiculous?
October 6, 201511 yr Don't most companies make you sign a social media policy? We aren't even allowed to put the name of the company we work for on our facebook.
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