El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 13m13 minutes ago

 

on the real, i’d love to know how successful all these anti-trophy people are. since those *hard* lessons got them so far.

 

El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 11m11 minutes ago

 

i also wonder how many anti-trophy people consistently lie to their kids about how smart they are.

 

El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 11m11 minutes ago

 

cuz i’ve tried to teach college freshman at a few places. sports trophies weren’t their problems. i’m sure of that.

Yes, unless the kids are too stupid to realize everyone gets one. I give kids more credit than that.

 

Ok but if that becomes the norm.... then are they still stupid? When does it become a problem?

El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 13m13 minutes ago

 

on the real, i’d love to know how successful all these anti-trophy people are. since those *hard* lessons got them so far.

 

El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 11m11 minutes ago

 

i also wonder how many anti-trophy people consistently lie to their kids about how smart they are.

 

El Flaco ‏@bomani_jones 11m11 minutes ago

 

cuz i’ve tried to teach college freshman at a few places. sports trophies weren’t their problems. i’m sure of that.

 

Well that's good. Glad we cleared that up.

When does it become a problem?

 

Never. A 6 year old getting a $2 trophy will never be a problem. Not once. Ever...

Never. A 6 year old getting a $2 trophy will never be a problem. Not once. Ever...

 

However speaking out of context will. Congrats. Perhaps I should award you with a trophy.....

We have a wide base of members that have played sports from a young age here on BGP. Is there anyone that can tell even one tale of how a participation trophy impacted their life? Good or bad will work.

 

You toss a participation trophy in the mighty Ohio at 6 because you didn't win the joke of a league you played in before you hit 1st grade? Lay it on thick...

However speaking out of context will. Congrats. Perhaps I should award you with a trophy.....

 

Speaking about a 6 year old getting a participation trophy in a thread about a 6 YEAR OLD GETTING A PARTICIPATION TROPHY is speaking out of context? :lol2:

 

You are looking for the reward of a social media like.

 

I love irony... :lol2:

We have a wide base of members that have played sports from a young age here on BGP. Is there anyone that can tell even one tale of how a participation trophy impacted their life? Good or bad will work.

 

You toss a participation trophy in the mighty Ohio at 6 because you didn't win the joke of a league you played in before you hit 1st grade? Lay it on thick...

 

 

So true. I can point to where many people I know went wrong....bad parents, experienced tragedy, bad decisions etc. Can't think of one instance where it was receiving a participation trophy. I've gotten plenty of them.....in all my life I only won two championships...one in baseball when I was 18 and one a couple years ago as a coach. And I can't remember any trophy having any impact one way or other in my life. Heck, even the many individual awards I've won, really had little to do with shaping who I am. And if participation awards were so awful and caused so many problems, then non-athletes/kids who don't participate in sports or activities should have a significant advantage in life.

I think that's a false equivalency. A more representative comparison would be awarding championship rings to every team in that competes. Kinda takes away the value of a championship ring doesn't it.

 

Fwiw, I received multiple cheap "trophies" for participating in junior league, and can't remember caring about them in the slightest. They went straight in a box and to the back of my closet. Because everyone got them, they really didn't mean much to anyone.

I think that's a false equivalency. A more representative comparison would be awarding championship rings to every team in that competes. Kinda takes away the value of a championship ring doesn't it.

 

Fwiw, I received multiple cheap "trophies" for participating in junior league, and can't remember caring about them in the slightest. They went straight in a box and to the back of my closet. Because everyone got them, they really didn't mean much to anyone.

 

I assume that first part was in response to my question.

 

It's the same to me if your argument is a kid got something that he didn't do enough to earn. That's the argument being made by Harrison et al. The slow, weak sophomores on the state championship team didn't do anything to win games, right?

 

Your second point supports my argument and others who say it doesn't have a negative impact on kids or society. Kids know.

I assume that first part was in response to my question.

 

It's the same to me if your argument is a kid got something that he didn't do enough to earn. That's the argument being made by Harrison et al. The slow, weak sophomores on the state championship team didn't do anything to win games, right?

 

Your second point supports my argument and others who say it doesn't have a negative impact on kids or society. Kids know.

 

Are they not part of the team? Do they not practice with the team? Do they not play on the scout team? I agree with most of your points in this thread, but that is a very weak comparison IMO.

While I think James lacks any tact in dealing with this issue and likes his hard persona, underneath it all I think he's trying to make sure his kids understand it takes hard work to achieve a goal, similar to his path I'd assume. Again, trying to get inside that rock head is no easy task, but just speculating. His method I may not agree with, but his message beyond that isn't such a bad one. Just my thoughts.

Are they not part of the team? Do they not practice with the team? Do they not play on the scout team? I agree with most of your points in this thread, but that is a very weak comparison IMO.

 

Hold on. You're saying that even if you do not score the TDs, win the MVP, or are the best player on the team that you may provide value?

 

Interesting.

While I think James lacks any tact in dealing with this issue and likes his hard persona, underneath it all I think he's trying to make sure his kids understand it takes hard work to achieve a goal, similar to his path I'd assume. Again, trying to get inside that rock head is no easy task, but just speculating. His method I may not agree with, but his message beyond that isn't such a bad one. Just my thoughts.

 

Agree wholeheartedly and I applaud his intent.

I assume that first part was in response to my question.

 

It's the same to me if your argument is a kid got something that he didn't do enough to earn. That's the argument being made by Harrison et al. The slow, weak sophomores on the state championship team didn't do anything to win games, right?

 

Your second point supports my argument and others who say it doesn't have a negative impact on kids or society. Kids know.

 

 

I would strongly disagree that awarding a player on a championship team is the same as awarding players on every team that didn't win a championship. Each player contributes to a championship team differently, whether that be through scout team, morale, guidance etc. Therefore, i have no problem with every player on a championship team getting an award.