July 21, 201511 yr For the most part, I have stayed out of the discussion on this topic. But, as things continue on (in the news, on Facebook, on BGP), I am still faced with one glaring question...for all of those that are pronouncing your agreement for this SCOTUS decision...where were you in 2004 when this was voted on here in Kentucky? Did you vote against the amendment (and basically for same sex marriage)? Did you vote at all? Or did you vote for it, but change your mind over the past decade or so? The reason why I ask is that the voting results weren't even close...basically 75/25. Heck, John Kerry got a higher percentage of votes in Kentucky during that election. So, I guess I'm just wondering where all of these people "suddenly" in favor or it, have come from. I have all sorts of scenarios in my mind as to why the apparent change, but I'd really like to know what some of you think. To me, a belief is a belief, and would take some extraordinary proof to otherwise change it. So, did the SCOTUS decision help change your mind?
July 21, 201511 yr The shift happened before the SCOTUS decision. The speed with with acceptance of same-sex marriage happened in this country is remarkable. I might know three people under age 30 that are opposed to the concept. I voted against the amendment in 2004, for what it's worth.
July 21, 201511 yr I honestly do not remember it on the ballot. My position has always been the same though.
July 21, 201511 yr I feel exactly the same way now as I did then...I don't support it. But I'm not condemning them either.
July 21, 201511 yr The shift happened before the SCOTUS decision. The speed with with acceptance of same-sex marriage happened in this country is remarkable. I might know three people under age 30 that are opposed to the concept. I voted against the amendment in 2004, for what it's worth. The under 30 crowd grew up with the Internet, of course they are less prone to brainwashing.
July 21, 201511 yr Author The under 30 crowd grew up with the Internet, of course they are less prone to brainwashing. And that's one of my scenarios...is it a case where the mediums (such as Facebook) more likely to be used by younger people who may not have been able to vote back in 2004?
July 21, 201511 yr The under 30 crowd grew up with the Internet, of course they are less prone to brainwashing. I'm 31. I honestly think it happened before the internet as regards this issue. I think MTV had a lot to do with it for people my age. It was on TV and it was basically just accepted as something that was out there. We grew up with it as part of popular culture. I remember when Ellen came out; I remember when Will and Grace was one of the biggest TV shows on the planet. I never saw much of life before those things simply existed and were in the world.
July 21, 201511 yr I'm 31. I honestly think it happened before the internet as regards this issue. I think MTV had a lot to do with it for people my age. It was on TV and it was basically just accepted as something that was out there. We grew up with it as part of popular culture. I remember when Ellen came out; I remember when Will and Grace was one of the biggest TV shows on the planet. I never saw much of life before those things simply existed and were in the world. Started before the Net, sure, happened before the Net, no way, not to the level we are seeing today with independent and free thinkers.
July 21, 201511 yr And that's one of my scenarios...is it a case where the mediums (such as Facebook) more likely to be used by younger people who may not have been able to vote back in 2004? The dynamics of promoting an issue has changed. But also these same people may have felt the same in 2004, but were just apathetic. You are asking a question about people 29 and older. I am not sure there has been a seismic shift in the amount of young voters, but they do have a more powerful platform whether or not that do vote.
July 21, 201511 yr According to an AP poll released Saturday, 42% of Americans support gay marriage while 40% oppose it. In April, 48% of Americans supported gay marriage. When asked specifically about the SCOTUS ruling, 39% supported it and 41% opposed it. I know going from 48% to 42% in 3 months isn't an enormous decrease, but I don't understand how a single ruling could cause people to change their minds like that. http://ap-gfkpoll.com/featured/findings-from-our-latest-poll-22 As to CSF's original question, my opinion on the matter has not changed since 2004.
July 21, 201511 yr I have no opinion on this issue, as I will never be in a position where it will directly affect me.
July 21, 201511 yr The shift happened before the SCOTUS decision. The speed with with acceptance of same-sex marriage happened in this country is remarkable. I might know three people under age 30 that are opposed to the concept. I voted against the amendment in 2004, for what it's worth. The under-30 crowd grew up with the Internet, of course they are less prone to brainwashing. I have two under-30 sons who are against SSM. BTW, I did not brainwash them.
July 21, 201511 yr I have two under-30 sons who are against SSM. BTW, I did not brainwash them. How can you be sure?
July 21, 201511 yr How can you be sure? Definition of BRAINWASHING 1: a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to give up basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to accept contrasting regimented ideas 2: persuasion by propaganda or salesmanship The above is NOT how I am.
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