^ You are so forceful! But ok. :bunny:

The decision did not change my mind. I thought about the issue and came to the realization that there is married under the law and married in the church. I see the SCOTUS decision as purely legal. As with nearly all these moral issues, the government's position has to be based on the law. If there is no harm, freedom rules.

^ You are so forceful! But ok. :bunny:

 

I am a gentle T-Rex.

I am a gentle T-Rex.

 

T-Rex!!!

 

Okay dad, I will drop it.

So, if someone is opposed they are not an independent nor free thinker and are brainwashed.

 

Seems pretty closed minded if you ask me.

So, if someone is opposed they are not an independent nor free thinker and are brainwashed.

 

Seems pretty closed minded if you ask me.

 

Not at all.

 

We are looking for reasons why public opinion is changing.

 

Where do you stand on this issue Doc?

I'm against same sex marriage. I don't think that biologically or anatomically speaking it's natural. No brainwashing here. I wasn't raised in church or thumped over the head with the bible. I can't be convinced genetically that homosexuality is innate, so I can't make myself support the union of to folks of the same sex. It's more than Leviticus for me.

To the original question...not at all

NO.

I voted for the amendment, and I support the SCOTUS ruling.

I'm 31. I honestly think it happened before the internet as regards this issue. I think MTV had a lot to do with it for people my age. It was on TV and it was basically just accepted as something that was out there.

 

We grew up with it as part of popular culture. I remember when Ellen came out; I remember when Will and Grace was one of the biggest TV shows on the planet. I never saw much of life before those things simply existed and were in the world.

 

 

Heck, I'm almost 50. I have spent the last almost-30 years working in the hospitality industry...hotels, restaurants, conventions, transportation. There are lots of gay people working in those industries, even going way back 30 years ago. Heck, that's where I made my first gay friend...his name is Don. He is my "husband". :lol2:

I'm sorry guys, it wasn't my intention to stir this pot up again. It's just that I consider myself a very logical person, and what I had been seeing/reading was testing that. I couldn't see how 75% of the population was "against" an issue just 11 years ago, and now seemingly the majority of the population is suddenly "for" it.

 

My top scenarios are this:

1.) A change in the population. As older, more conservative people die/move out, they are replaced by a younger, more liberal-thinking crowd.

2.) Perhaps the majority isn't actually "for" it...maybe the minority just uses social media more often, giving the appearance that there are more people on that side.

3.) Perhaps those that are in favor of it, did not exercise their right in voting back in 2004.

 

In reality, it's probably a combination of all three, plus maybe some more. Was just trying to figure that out. Sorry I didn't word it better.

I voted for the amendment, and I support the SCOTUS ruling.

 

I'm curious about your word choice there. You can support our troops, but be against a war. So has your stance changed on the subject, or are you saying that you'll "obey" (for lack of a better word) the law?

I'm curious about your word choice there. You can support our troops, but be against a war. So has your stance changed on the subject, or are you saying that you'll "obey" (for lack of a better word) the law?

 

I'm sorry...I voted against the amendment.

I'm against same sex marriage. I don't think that biologically or anatomically speaking it's natural. No brainwashing here. I wasn't raised in church or thumped over the head with the bible. I can't be convinced genetically that homosexuality is innate, so I can't make myself support the union of to folks of the same sex. It's more than Leviticus for me.

 

I guess that is where the problem comes in. Not agreeing with same sex marriage is one thing, being "against" same sex marriage has other implications.

 

Maybe the larger issue is the whole institution of marriage.