December 23, 201411 yr Author Because he was killed by the police just like the others. Trying to separate it given what is going on in this country right now is just viewing things from the side of the police. There are serious questions surrounding the other 2 as well. What was Crawford doing wrong? He picked up the gun off of the store's shelf. The video shows that he wasn't waving it around or pointing it at anyone. Last I saw Ohio is an open carry state. Even if it had been a real rifle he was within his rights to be carrying it unless he had been asked to leave the store by management. I understand that the officers were given bad information by the dispatcher because of what the person that called it in told them. That doesn't mean that he was doing anything illegal that lead to his death. The Rice death is not exactly cut and dried either. In the Crawford case he starts to lift the gun just before he is shot...it was a split second decision that had to be made but as you say it is not cut and dried, that is was or wasn't justified either.
December 23, 201411 yr Come on. No one ever said a gun jumped out of someone's pocket and fired on its own. Anti-govt feelings from right-wing vocal minority, NRA, gun laws(driven by NRA), etc. Those were all listed as factors. Instead , the response was that it's strictly on the shooter and it was "mental illness." Now we have a mentally ill person and we get nothing but political grandstanding and blame-placing other than where it belongs - on the shooter. When has the NRA hosted a rally where large groups of people are chanting about killing other people ?
December 23, 201411 yr When has the NRA hosted a rally where large groups of people are chanting about killing other people ? 1. Not comparing the arguments. All are irrational. 2. What rally did Mr Sharpton host that you referenced?
December 23, 201411 yr 1. Not comparing the arguments. All are irrational. 2. What rally did Mr Sharpton host that you referenced? He was at the rally but he organized all the rallies on that day across the nation. If he can't organize it properly and continues to cause anger to grow he has to take a look in the mirror because he isn't some innocent bystander. He's a race hustler who's words have caused races to become further apart and not.closer together. Sharpton isn't new to the game of inciting violence then claiming innocence.
December 23, 201411 yr He was at the rally but he organized all the rallies on that day across the nation. If he can't organize it properly and continues to cause anger to grow he has to take a look in the mirror because he isn't some innocent bystander. He's a race hustler who's words have caused races to become further apart and not.closer together. Sharpton isn't new to the game of inciting violence then claiming innocence. Wasn't at ******
December 23, 201411 yr He was at the rally but he organized all the rallies on that day across the nation. If he can't organize it properly and continues to cause anger to grow he has to take a look in the mirror because he isn't some innocent bystander. He's a race hustler who's words have caused races to become further apart and not.closer together. Sharpton isn't new to the game of inciting violence then claiming innocence. Are you talking about the NYC rally where we head some yelling about police dying?
December 23, 201411 yr Are you talking about the NYC rally where we head some yelling about police dying? He lacks any self awareness. Sharpton Refuses de Blasio?s Calls to Halt Protests Until After NYPD Funerals | Mediaite
December 23, 201411 yr No way we can hold organizers of rallies responsible for actions of a small sample size. I also do not hold lawmakers that attend such rallies responsible for those people.
December 23, 201411 yr He lacks any self awareness. Sharpton Refuses de Blasio?s Calls to Halt Protests Until After NYPD Funerals | Mediaite Fair but has nothing to do with culpability.
December 23, 201411 yr Fair but has nothing to do with culpability. I haven't called for him to be arrested because I don't think he broke any laws . But you can debate me until your blue in the face but I can't understand how you can't see Sharpton creates a violent outrage and hatred toward LE and that in and of itself enhances an atmosphere of anger that can help push crazy people over the edge. For decades Sharpton hustles his hate speech then when violence inevitably happens he shrugs his shoulders and claims non violence. When the story happens over and over we start to see a pattern.
December 23, 201411 yr I haven't called for him to be arrested because I don't think he broke any laws . But you can debate me until your blue in the face but I can't understand how you can't see Sharpton creates a violent outrage and hatred toward LE and that in and of itself enhances an atmosphere of anger that can help push crazy people over the edge. For decades Sharpton hustles his hate speech then when violence inevitably happens he shrugs his shoulders and claims non violence. When the story happens over and over we start to see a pattern. I present the TEA Party rallies as an example of something that attracts SOME who are on the fringe and do not represent what the majority of the party think. When a guy shows up with signs about blacks and breeding with animals I do NOT blame Sen Cruz for attending nor the politicians who sponsored the event and have railed against immigrants and welfare. They, too, have created an environment that SOME will use as an excuse for their actions. It all comes down to an individual's actions.
December 23, 201411 yr Just heard on the news that Vice President Biden will attend the funerals. Glad to hear that.
December 24, 201411 yr Here's an interesting article regarding black NYPD officers and retired officers and how they feel about the current situation. I'll offer it without comment. Off duty black officers in New York say they fear fellow cops - AOL.com
December 24, 201411 yr Just heard on the news that Vice President Biden will attend the funerals.Very glad to hear that. I applaud the administration.
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