I think all of the people in here saying that Obama is the catalyst for worsening race relations are saying that a black president should not comment on race or acknowledge that race still affects this country (which is obvious to most anyone). Any mention of race from a black president is de facto considered antagonistic toward white people (unless he is implicating black people as the problem, then he is doing good). Of course, "black" is a necessary qualifier, because white presidents have freely opined on the issue without such blowback - LBJ was far more forceful and assertive on the race issue than Obama has been, Nixon and Reagan were far more antagonistic on the issue than Obama could ever hope to be.

 

Obama has been about as milquetoast on the race issue as one could be. And I don't blame him either. Look at the vitriol in this thread (and others) in response to what Obama has actually said or done, to the point that people can't even cite it, they are just vaguely angry that Obama has acknowledged a black perspective on some events. It just doesn't remotely match. Obama was probably the last notable public figure to make any comment on some of these national stories, yet there are several in here absolutely convinced they only became national stories because Obama demanded it.

 

I won't add anything else. PP92 has put it as straightforwardly as it could be.

 

Its not hard to cite examples of Obamas mistakes.

 

He said one police department acted stupidly.

 

There were a few quotes in here I disagreed with on the Michael Brown case.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/28/obama-says-michael-browns-death-in-ferguson-stains/?page=all

 

 

He consistently lays the blame on law enforcement, no matter the facts.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/politics/obama-eric-holder-on-eric-garner/

Rush Limbaugh:

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

 

 

•"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

 

•"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

 

 

 

•"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve."

 

He was asked to resign from his Monday Night Football gig for the last one.

 

:lol2: :lol2:

I think all of the people in here saying that Obama is the catalyst for worsening race relations are saying that a black president should not comment on race or acknowledge that race still affects this country (which is obvious to most anyone). Any mention of race from a black president is de facto considered antagonistic toward white people (unless he is implicating black people as the problem, then he is doing good). Of course, "black" is a necessary qualifier, because white presidents have freely opined on the issue without such blowback - LBJ was far more forceful and assertive on the race issue than Obama has been, Nixon and Reagan were far more antagonistic on the issue than Obama could ever hope to be.

 

Obama has been about as milquetoast on the race issue as one could be. And I don't blame him either. Look at the vitriol in this thread (and others) in response to what Obama has actually said or done, to the point that people can't even cite it, they are just vaguely angry that Obama has acknowledged a black perspective on some events. It just doesn't remotely match. Obama was probably the last notable public figure to make any comment on some of these national stories, yet there are several in here absolutely convinced they only became national stories because Obama demanded it.

 

I won't add anything else. PP92 has put it as straightforwardly as it could be.

sorry but you both are wrong.

Why you and PP92 are so stuck on a Black president is beyond ne

becauae you both miss the point completely. It's not that no matter what he says it becomes a race issue because that isn't true at all. What mine and many othera

issies has always been the JUMPING TO CONCLUSSIONS BEFORE THE FACTS ARE KNOWN and making speeches about them and sending head hunters like Holder to Ferguson and for what?

 

i could care less if Obama is black or not. That has absolutely nothing to do with my disdain for how he has handled things. Yet his race is always brought up by people as if that makes a difference when in reality it doesn't. What makes a difference is that our president makes it a race issue as so does others in here.

 

Michael Brown was a thug who tried to kill a police officer and if I was the officer I would have emptied my clip into the punk too.

 

The President of the United States sent 3 representatives to a criminals funeral. Don't you get it???? I could care less if it was Obama or Bush who did that because whoever was the president is be all

over for glorifying a punk and ignoring the very people who put their lives in the line everyday they go to work.

 

Screw Obama, black, white or red he is a joke and has done nothing to ease the tension and only contributed to it.

 

To come out and say because Obama is black he shouldn't comment on race issues is stupid and a joke habib. What he should do is quit siding with thugs and condemn them. Let me know when he condemns Michael Brown.

Its not hard to cite examples of Obamas mistakes.

 

He said one police department acted stupidly.

 

There were a few quotes in here I disagreed with on the Michael Brown case.

 

Obama says Michael Brown's death in Ferguson 'stains the heart of black children' - Washington Times

 

 

He consistently lays the blame on law enforcement, no matter the facts.

 

Obama on Garner verdict: 'We are not going to let up' - CNN.com

 

I read the first link earlier. He's exactly right in what he said. What did he say in there that was so inflammatory? Is there not a racial divide in the justice system?

 

 

Did you even listen to what he said in the second video? Where is what he is saying so wrong? "In some cases there are misconceptions(speaking on LEOs and the trust of the public) and in some cases there are truths."

 

"We must recognize that this is an American problem and not a black problem, not a white problem, not a brown problem,not a native American problem. It is an American problem. When any person in America is not being treated fairly by the law it is an American problem."

 

 

I'm going to take a shower and hit that sack. I'm more confused now than ever before. He's making too much sense now.

 

Rush Limbaugh:

"Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."

 

•"Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

 

•"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."

 

•"I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve."

 

He was asked to resign from his Monday Night Football gig for the last one.

 

One down...

Got any proof of those statements? Clyde demanded proof of Sharptons racism, even though he knew about it. Perhaps you could show us some proof?

 

Bill O'Reilly:

 

But here is the headline: young black men commit homicides at a rate 10 times greater than whites and Hispanics combined. When presented with damning evidence like that, and like the mini-holocaust in Chicago where hundreds of African-Americans are murdered each year the civil rights industry looks the other way or makes excuses. They blame guns, poor education, lack of jobs, rarely do they define the problem accurately. So here it is. The reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the African-American family.

 

Right now about 73 percent of all black babies are born out of wedlock. That drives poverty. And the lack of involved fathers leads to young boys growing up resentful and unsupervised. When was the last time you saw a public service ad telling young black girls to avoid becoming pregnant? Has President Obama done such an ad? How about Jackson or Sharpton? Has the Congressional Black Caucus demanded an ad like that? How about the PC pundits who work for NBC News?

 

White people don't force black people to have babies out of wedlock. That's a personal decision; a decision that has devastated millions of children and led to disaster both socially and economically. So raised without much structure, young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. Nobody forces them to do that; again, it is a personal decision.

 

But the entertainment industry encourages the irresponsibility by marketing a gangster culture, hip hop, movies, trashy TV shows to impressionable children. In fact, President Obama has welcomed some of the worst offenders in that cesspool to the White House when he should be condemning what these weasels are doing. These so-called entertainers get rich while the kids who emulate their lyrics and attitude destroy themselves.

 

And then there is the drug situation. Go to Detroit and ask anyone living on the south side of the eight-mile road what destroyed their city? They will tell you narcotics. They know addiction leads to crime and debasement. But what do the race hustlers and limousine liberals yell about? The number of black men in prison for selling drugs. Oh, it's so unfair. It's a nonviolent crime and blacks are targeted. That is one of the biggest lies in the history of this country.

 

The thugs who sell hard drugs, no matter what color they are, deserve to be put away for long periods of time. They sell poison, they sell a product that enslaves and kills. They are scum.

I heard on the news today( I don't remember which channel) that like 65/70% polled believe that Obama has worsened race relations since he has been in office. And they separated the Black from the White and Blacks were like 55/58% believing Obama had hurt the race relations.

sorry but you both are wrong.

Why you and PP92 are so stuck on a Black president is beyond ne

becauae you both miss the point completely. It's not that no matter what he says it becomes a race issue because that isn't true at all. What mine and many othera

issies has always been the JUMPING TO CONCLUSSIONS BEFORE THE FACTS ARE KNOWN and making speeches about them and sending head hunters like Holder to Ferguson and for what?

 

i could care less if Obama is black or not. That has absolutely nothing to do with my disdain for how he has handled things. Yet his race is always brought up by people as if that makes a difference when in reality it doesn't. What makes a difference is that our president makes it a race issue as so does others in here.

 

Michael Brown was a thug who tried to kill a police officer and if I was the officer I would have emptied my clip into the punk too.

 

The President of the United States sent 3 representatives to a criminals funeral. Don't you get it???? I could care less if it was Obama or Bush who did that because whoever was the president is be all

over for glorifying a punk and ignoring the very people who put their lives in the line everyday they go to work.

 

Screw Obama, black, white or red he is a joke and has done nothing to ease the tension and only contributed to it.

 

To come out and say because Obama is black he shouldn't comment on race issues is stupid and a joke habib. What he should do is quit siding with thugs and condemn them. Let me know when he condemns Michael Brown.

 

:lol2: :lol2:

 

The saga continues.........

snopes.com: Rush Limbaugh 'Racist Quotes' List

 

 

Rush Limbaugh: 'I Can Now' Say 'N---a' (AUDIO)

 

That's one. I figured he'd be the easiest.

Bill O'Reilly:

 

But here is the headline: young black men commit homicides at a rate 10 times greater than whites and Hispanics combined. When presented with damning evidence like that, and like the mini-holocaust in Chicago where hundreds of African-Americans are murdered each year the civil rights industry looks the other way or makes excuses. They blame guns, poor education, lack of jobs, rarely do they define the problem accurately. So here it is. The reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the African-American family.

 

Right now about 73 percent of all black babies are born out of wedlock. That drives poverty. And the lack of involved fathers leads to young boys growing up resentful and unsupervised. When was the last time you saw a public service ad telling young black girls to avoid becoming pregnant? Has President Obama done such an ad? How about Jackson or Sharpton? Has the Congressional Black Caucus demanded an ad like that? How about the PC pundits who work for NBC News?

 

White people don't force black people to have babies out of wedlock. That's a personal decision; a decision that has devastated millions of children and led to disaster both socially and economically. So raised without much structure, young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. Nobody forces them to do that; again, it is a personal decision.

 

But the entertainment industry encourages the irresponsibility by marketing a gangster culture, hip hop, movies, trashy TV shows to impressionable children. In fact, President Obama has welcomed some of the worst offenders in that cesspool to the White House when he should be condemning what these weasels are doing. These so-called entertainers get rich while the kids who emulate their lyrics and attitude destroy themselves.

 

And then there is the drug situation. Go to Detroit and ask anyone living on the south side of the eight-mile road what destroyed their city? They will tell you narcotics. They know addiction leads to crime and debasement. But what do the race hustlers and limousine liberals yell about? The number of black men in prison for selling drugs. Oh, it's so unfair. It's a nonviolent crime and blacks are targeted. That is one of the biggest lies in the history of this country.

 

The thugs who sell hard drugs, no matter what color they are, deserve to be put away for long periods of time. They sell poison, they sell a product that enslaves and kills. They are scum.

 

Is any of that true?

I'm black.

 

Wait! What?

Is any of that true?

 

More Bill O'Reilly:

 

“In support of his proposal to militarize U.S. borders, O’Reilly remarked, ‘We’d save lives because Mexican wetbacks, whatever you want to call them, the coyotes–they’re not going to do what they’re doing now, all right, so people aren’t going to die in the desert.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “During a segment (2/9/00) about black athletes suing over the minimum academic standards for college admission, O’Reilly commented: ‘Look, you know as well as I do most of these kids come out and they can’t speak English.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “‘Will African-Americans break away from the pack thinking and reject immorality–because that’s the reason the family’s breaking apart–alcohol, drugs, infidelity. You have to reject that, and it doesn’t seem–and I’m broadly speaking here, but a lot of African-Americans won’t reject it.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “On the April 12, 2006, Radio Factor, O’Reilly claimed that on the previous day’s broadcast, guest Charles Barron, a New York City councilman, had revealed the ‘hidden agenda’ behind the current immigration debate, which, O’Reilly said, was ‘to wipe out `white privilege` and to have the browning of America.’ O’Reilly suggested that this ‘hidden agenda’ included plans to let ‘people who live in the Caribbean, people who live in Africa and Asia … walk in and become citizens immediately.'” (MediaMatters)

◾ “In a February 27, 2006, conversation with a radio caller about the disproportionately few jobs and contracts that have gone to locals in the rebuilding of New Orleans, O’Reilly said: ‘[T]he homies, you know … I mean, they’re just not going to get the job.'” (MediaMatters)

◾ In responding to a contributor noting that by mid-century the US would no longer be predominately white, O’Reilly responded: “Yeah, but by then we’ll all be dead. Thank God!!” (Daily Kos)

More Bill O'Reilly:

 

“In support of his proposal to militarize U.S. borders, O’Reilly remarked, ‘We’d save lives because Mexican wetbacks, whatever you want to call them, the coyotes–they’re not going to do what they’re doing now, all right, so people aren’t going to die in the desert.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “During a segment (2/9/00) about black athletes suing over the minimum academic standards for college admission, O’Reilly commented: ‘Look, you know as well as I do most of these kids come out and they can’t speak English.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “‘Will African-Americans break away from the pack thinking and reject immorality–because that’s the reason the family’s breaking apart–alcohol, drugs, infidelity. You have to reject that, and it doesn’t seem–and I’m broadly speaking here, but a lot of African-Americans won’t reject it.'” (Fair.org)

◾ “On the April 12, 2006, Radio Factor, O’Reilly claimed that on the previous day’s broadcast, guest Charles Barron, a New York City councilman, had revealed the ‘hidden agenda’ behind the current immigration debate, which, O’Reilly said, was ‘to wipe out `white privilege` and to have the browning of America.’ O’Reilly suggested that this ‘hidden agenda’ included plans to let ‘people who live in the Caribbean, people who live in Africa and Asia … walk in and become citizens immediately.'” (MediaMatters)

◾ “In a February 27, 2006, conversation with a radio caller about the disproportionately few jobs and contracts that have gone to locals in the rebuilding of New Orleans, O’Reilly said: ‘[T]he homies, you know … I mean, they’re just not going to get the job.'” (MediaMatters)

◾ In responding to a contributor noting that by mid-century the US would no longer be predominately white, O’Reilly responded: “Yeah, but by then we’ll all be dead. Thank God!!” (Daily Kos)

 

It's almost like you had these stored away just waiting to post them :lol2:.

For the record, in 6 years when an unarmed Malik Walker is shot by the cops for whatever reason and our then white POTUS doesn't send White House reps to the funeral I 1.) won't be mad or bothered at all and 2.) I won't blame that white POTUS for ruining race relations by not sending White House reps to his funeral. I'll understand completely.

Is any of that true?

 

I'd say 99% of it is on YouTube somewhere. You can watch him say it.