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Obama administration sets price for release of terrorists from Guantanamo

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I believe he has to give 30 days notice on a specific plan. Where Krauthamer may be right is I don't know if congressional approval is needed but notice is within 30 days and that isn't even a question at this point. So the next question is what information is Congressman Levin talking about and was it a specific offer.

 

With all that said while reading more into this situation over the last couple days. I have come to the conclusion Susan Rice lied to the National media for her 2nd time on Sunday shows and to save face if I'm her I resign . I've also come to the conclusion this was a poor decision on the presidents part regardless of legality. We risk more enemy lives by putting 5 leaders back in motion who want us dead to save the life of a soldier who denounced his country and by all account t of his troop leader and peers , a soldier who deserted them. His poor mental fortitude and loyalty to his brother in arms cost the lives of 6 fellow soldiers in missions looking for him and who knows how many other people suffered due to him working with the enemy.

Former Bush administration official says GWB would have made same decision to free Bergdahl.

 

Ex-Bush Official: GWB Would Have Made Same Deal To Free Sgt. Bergdahl | Crooks and Liars

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I don't get why it matters what Bush would've done? Who cares? Obama is the one that made this decision, it doesn't matter what anyone else would have done. The figurative blood is on his hands and his hands only. He's the one that is throwing the constitution on laws out of the window now, so it isn't relevant what Bush did in the past or would do.

I don't get why it matters what Bush would've done? Who cares? Obama is the one that made this decision' date=' it doesn't matter what anyone else would have done. The figurative blood is on his hands and his hands only. He's the one that is throwing the constitution on laws out of the window now, so it isn't relevant what Bush did in the past or would do.[/quote']

 

Are you saying he violated the Constitution on this case ?

Are you saying he violated the Constitution on this case ?

 

I meant in a broad sense. Not specifically this one per say, but he really doesn't care it seems.

Are you saying he violated the Constitution on this case ?

 

I'm saying he didn't follow the law if land nor past precedent.

Who is Obamas PR team though . Let's say everything Obama did was legit , but let's say at least half of what is said about the soldier is true. Should Obama be having a press conference calling him a hero and sending Susan Rice on Sunday shows calling hero. Seems odd and poor planning.

Why free a guy to have him tried in military court? This doesn't add up at all

 

This is something I have been thinking about. I'm in no way prepared to defend or condemn the specifics of the trade. But, on a broader scale, are we as Americans at a point where we would rather an American soldier to eventually die at the hands of the enemy, rather than be brought home to answer to the charges and the consequences of his walking away in front of the people he left behind? I can't answer for military personnel, or the families of those that may have died searching for him. But, from the perspective of an American civilian who at least believes in the ideal of the American justice system, I think I would rather he be brought to justice through our system. Leaving him to die at the hands of the enemy as his just rewards doesn't sit right with me.

This is something I have been thinking about. I'm in no way prepared to defend or condemn the specifics of the trade. But, on a broader scale, are we as Americans at a point where we would rather an American soldier to eventually die at the hands of the enemy, rather than be brought home to answer to the charges and the consequences of his walking away in front of the people he left behind? I can't answer for military personnel, or the families of those that may have died searching for him. But, from the perspective of an American civilian who at least believes in the ideal of the American justice system, I think I would rather he be brought to justice through our system. Leaving him to die at the hands of the enemy as his just rewards doesn't sit right with me.

 

I definitely get what you're saying. If someone should be put up for some time of charges and then was captured, then yes I want to see that soldier come home and face those rather than be put to death. However, if it is proven (which may never happen unless he admits to it) that he deserted his post, seeking the Taliban, then I'm not so sure I care that he has his formal hearing.

Why free a guy to have him tried in military court? This doesn't add up at all

 

They weren't going to. When all this first went down the talking point was 5 years in captivity was punishment enough. The backlash from the ones that served with him and the family of the ones that died searching for him made them reconsider. They were calling him a hero on national TV right after the exchange. They thought they silenced those that served with him but didn't realize the rage it would cause calling him a hero.

Who is Obamas PR team though . Let's say everything Obama did was legit , but let's say at least half of what is said about the soldier is true. Should Obama be having a press conference calling him a hero and sending Susan Rice on Sunday shows calling hero. Seems odd and poor planning.

That is what gets me about all of this. They HAD to know his back story. My guess is they tried to get ahead of the negativity and make it in to a positive in the hopes it would diminish the negativity?

That is what gets me about all of this. They HAD to know his back story. My guess is they tried to get ahead of the negativity and make it in to a positive in the hopes it would diminish the negativity?

 

From what Chuck Todd from NBC reported yesterday the adminstration was expecting the blowback on releasing 5 top Taliban leaders. But they were expecting military members and Vets to rally around decision to lessen the blow. For some reason they didn't predict military members wouldn't rally around a guy who deserted his post and cost American lives.

From what Chuck Todd from NBC reported yesterday the adminstration was expecting the blowback on releasing 5 top Taliban leaders. But they were expecting military members and Vets to rally around decision to lessen the blow. For some reason they didn't predict military members wouldn't rally around a guy who deserted his post and cost American lives.

 

If that's the case, it only reinforces my belief that this administration is utterly clueless with regards to the American public.

From what Chuck Todd from NBC reported yesterday the adminstration was expecting the blowback on releasing 5 top Taliban leaders. But they were expecting military members and Vets to rally around decision to lessen the blow. For some reason they didn't predict military members wouldn't rally around a guy who deserted his post and cost American lives.

 

There is a major part of this developing narrative that is sticking and causing a whirlwind on social media that simply doesn't appear to be true. That is the 6 deaths that are being directly related to the search. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/world/middleeast/can-gi-be-tied-to-6-lost-lives-facts-are-murky.html?_r=0

 

I would agree that this exchange seems fishy but I think everyone needs to tap the breaks for a second, this was not a decision made in a vacum as now we learn it was supported by top intellegence and pentagon officals. I would say it was made for good reason even if we never know what that reason is. I can't imagine the CIA and Top military brass aproving an exchange if they thought more lives would be in danger. It is also rather ironic that some of the folks that supported Bush's torturing program and bashing Diane Feinstein are all of a sudden calling for impeachment and citing Sen. Feinstein. Did Obama violate the law, I'd say he did not based on the fact that it wasn't a "release" but rather an "exchange". Did he violate the spirit of the law, probably so but not the law. The bottom line is, like many other things it is pure politics. Was the exchange worth it, we may never know but they may think Bergdahl could provide valuable intellegence or the military may feel the 5 guys are no longer a threat. I'll choose to trust the fact that the CIA & top Pentagon officials know what they are doing on this one.

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