If I'm not mistaken, and I may well be, even if private funds build it if it's built on school property it becomes school property and as such has to be available for all.

That is correct.

Title IX should be the poster child of good intentions becoming unintended consequences.

 

I think Title XI was very much needed. Young women for almost two generations have reaped the benefits. Look at the strides your sisters and daughters have made in such a short time. It is truly fabulous for women.

 

However, like a lot of things that are necessary when implemented, sometimes they can go negative or gets used wrongly. I am sure we can all think of other legislation that has had similar outcomes. I believe for every instance mentioned here, and elsewhere, there would be X100 instances of boys getting things the girls don't if not for Title XI. I can't imagine our daughter's athletic opportunities without implementation of Title XI.

 

As far as parents building something with private money only to have it torn down, that, on its face, is ridiculous. But, perhaps if we dig deeper we would see that the school warned the parents not to build it or get the softball team to sign off on it or whatever. I am not saying that's the case but when I hear of something so ridiculous, I automatically think there has to be more to the story.

Title IX is a great idea and was very much needed. But this is one of many cases where I've seen something taken away and nothing gained due to Title IX.

I think Title XI was very much needed. Young women for almost two generations have reaped the benefits. Look at the strides your sisters and daughters have made in such a short time. It is truly fabulous for women.

 

However, like a lot of things that are necessary when implemented, sometimes they can go negative or gets used wrongly. I am sure we can all think of other legislation that has had similar outcomes. I believe for every instance mentioned here, and elsewhere, there would be X100 instances of boys getting things the girls don't if not for Title XI. I can't imagine our daughter's athletic opportunities without implementation of Title XI.

 

As far as parents building something with private money only to have it torn down, that, on its face, is ridiculous. But, perhaps if we dig deeper we would see that the school warned the parents not to build it or get the softball team to sign off on it or whatever. I am not saying that's the case but when I hear of something so ridiculous, I automatically think there has to be more to the story.

 

I'm sure the male wrestlers, gymnasts, swimmers etc. that have seen their programs cut would disagree with you. As I said good intentions, unintended consequences.

This shows how stupid members of government can be at times. In this case the person who ordered the stands removed or torn down.

 

Since this was all donated material and labor - when the order came to down to dismantle it someone should have said to the person making the decision - "Here is a screw driver - have at it." .

 

Before destroying/dismantling the work an agreement should have been hammered out to keep the stands and upgrade the other field in the future.

Title IX says you have to update the girls first. It isn't an issue if girls have better facilities, uniforms, etc. but at no time can girls have inferior anything. Even if money is raised by boosters, facilities are off campus, etc.

This shows how stupid members of government can be at times. In this case the person who ordered the stands removed or torn down.

 

Since this was all donated material and labor - when the order came to down to dismantle it someone should have said to the person making the decision - "Here is a screw driver - have at it." .

 

Before destroying/dismantling the work an agreement should have been hammered out to keep the stands and upgrade the other field in the future.

 

My reply would have been, " kiss my "donkey". US Dept. of Education is just another Govt. entity that needs to be done away with. Maybe the Judge should have issued a court order directing the girl’s softball team parents to get off their butts and generate some income.

I think Title XI was very much needed. Young women for almost two generations have reaped the benefits. Look at the strides your sisters and daughters have made in such a short time. It is truly fabulous for women.

 

However, like a lot of things that are necessary when implemented, sometimes they can go negative or gets used wrongly. I am sure we can all think of other legislation that has had similar outcomes. I believe for every instance mentioned here, and elsewhere, there would be X100 instances of boys getting things the girls don't if not for Title XI. I can't imagine our daughter's athletic opportunities without implementation of Title XI.

 

As far as parents building something with private money only to have it torn down, that, on its face, is ridiculous. But, perhaps if we dig deeper we would see that the school warned the parents not to build it or get the softball team to sign off on it or whatever. I am not saying that's the case but when I hear of something so ridiculous, I automatically think there has to be more to the story.

 

I have sons and a daughter who were all athletes. Title 9 hurts males more than it helps the women. It is another government farce of dumbing down. How's the WNBA doing? Pretty soon the NBA is going to have to fund it.

I have sons and a daughter who were all athletes. Title 9 hurts males more than it helps the women. It is another government farce of dumbing down. How's the WNBA doing? Pretty soon the NBA is going to have to fund it.

 

I can't tell if you last line is sarcastic or not, but the NBA already gives the WNBA about $12 million per year to offset operating losses.

Becoming the norm now.

 

Most girls sports are now handouts sports, they cannot sustain on their own and wait around until boys want something, then come with their hand out threatening a call to KHSAA or a lawyer......parents simply don't want to work because they don't have to.

As someone who grew up pre title IX, I can tell you that I love the opportunities girls/ young women have today that never would have happened without it. Yes, there are some ridiculous aspects of it, but the gains made far outweigh the downside.

 

As far as tearing down structures go, any school's AD should have foreseen Title IX issues with any project and made some of compromise before it got that far.

Title IX can cause serious issues if you are not compliant. All public schools are subject to federal audits and must also complete an internal report annually. If a school is in non-compliance it could impact all federal funding, that would be a Title Funds and in many impoverished districts that is a chunk of change. It also effects IDEA Funds, which is your Special Education funding and Food programs, etc. I would say many school administrators would apply fairness in sports and their facilities and many times they can't do some things, even with private funding, because of the law. You really have no choice as a school district. The only state that didn't worry about this in the beginning was Connecticut, but eventually they had to accept federal funding in order to meet the challenges financially they eventually had.

 

In essence, if Walter wanted to use all of his hard earned media money, as the mogul he has become, and purchase turf for the Holmes athletic field, he would have no say in who used it. Also, if your facility is off campus and is used by a school team, you have to follow Title IX laws.

 

Has this been good, in most cases there is no doubt it has benefited girls sports. After some 42 years, there is no excuse for schools and districts not to comply, the judicial process has sorted everything. I would imagine the school district informed them of the way the facility had to be used or the consequences of them not using it under the law.

 

But alas, some just don't get it because they don't agree, and then the school district is perceived as the bad guy when they do what they have to do.