February 22, 201412 yr Typical cop overreaction . Bullies . How so? She was stopped for jay walking, was uncooperative and collapsed to the ground. After refusing to ID herself for the citation she was arrested..where exactly was the bullying?
February 22, 201412 yr How so? She was stopped for jay walking' date=' was uncooperative and collapsed to the ground. After refusing to ID herself for the citation she was arrested..where exactly was the bullying?[/quote'] Apparently someone didn't read all the information posted.
February 22, 201412 yr Apparently someone didn't read all the information posted. I don't think they were bullies but I do think they probably have solved the situation without slapping cuffs on her immediately. Given the fact that they obviously had to have startled her by grabbing her from behind you would have thought they could have overlooked an initial bad reaction--especially given that she didn't get physical with them. Had they given her a minute to compose herself this whole episode would likely have been avoided. Once the cuffed her she deserved to be arrested if she would not give her name and address. Bad behavior on both sides.
February 23, 201412 yr I don't think anyone world disagree with you. It shocking how many people don't know their rights and will do whatever a cop request. If I get pulled over or stopped I frustrate them enough to move on to the next person.
February 23, 201412 yr The initial two officers look like they could stand to do some jogging of their own. And maybe the chief should get some noise-cancelling headphones or at least try them out. The officer could be yelling but the person will not here it. His comments were very cavalier.
February 23, 201412 yr She should have said that she was in the process of going to vote. No ID required.
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February 24, 201412 yr It shocking how many people don't know their rights and will do whatever a cop request. If I get pulled over or stopped I frustrate them enough to move on to the next person. And why, may I ask, do you do this?
February 24, 201412 yr I may be wrong here, but I have been told more than once, at least here in KY, if you are of legal age, which I guess is 18, that you MUST have ID with you at all times and be able to present it if asked by someone with the authority to ask for it. For many that would be a drivers license, but might be something else for some. Anyone know this to be fact? Except when voting... Edited February 24, 201412 yr by sml007
February 24, 201412 yr Except when voting... I work the voting polls, have for about 3 years now in my county, and I think it's an absolute farce...and I'm not alone in that opinion. I've seen first hand people try to cheat the system WITH ID's, much less without them. With that said, walk down the street looking "suspicious" (what ever that might be), have a cop approach you and during his/her interaction with you ask for some identification, don't produce any and see what happens. You might be in for a longer day than you had anticipated when you woke up.
February 24, 201412 yr And why' date=' may I ask, do you do this?[/quote'] I have family with law degrees from OSU, so if a cop is pulling me over to "snoop" he's wasting his time. If I'm breaking the law that is fair game, but in my opinion they prey on the public who doesn't know their rights.
February 24, 201412 yr I had a Ft. Mitchell police officer sit me in the back of his cruiser and question me for 10 minutes or so when he stopped me while I was out for a jog/walk after dark one night several years back. He passed me on the street, then came to a stop in the street about 75 feet ahead of me and turned on his lights. I kept jogging right past his cruiser (not knowing why he had stopped in the first place) and he got out and yelled, "Jogger, you are to stop running immediately and turn around so I can see your face!" He asked for my ID, and I told him I didn't have it because I had jogging shorts on (I was wearing nylon jogging shorts, a t-shirt, and jogging shoes, had my iPod in my hand, and earbuds in, and I had my house key tied into the knot of my shoelaces). He asked me a bunch of questions about where I lived, where I worked, who he could call to verify what I was saying, etc. I asked if I was in trouble for something, and his immediate response was, "Why are you asking me that? Did you do something to GET yourself into trouble?" At that point I told him, no, and that I was going to be contacting a lawyer as soon as I was let go. He gave me some line about him being able to question me as much as he wanted since I hadn't been able to properly identify myself, and then let me go on before too long. I had one of my lawyer buddies write a letter to the Fort Mitchell police chief, and they responded in writing with an official statement of apology, and they told me the officer would be reprimanded. Proof positive that 95% of the time, Fort Mitchell police have absolutely nothing better to do with their time.
February 24, 201412 yr I had a Ft. Mitchell police officer sit me in the back of his cruiser and question me for 10 minutes or so when he stopped me while I was out for a jog/walk after dark one night several years back. He passed me on the street' date=' then came to a stop in the street about 75 feet ahead of me and turned on his lights. I kept jogging right past his cruiser (not knowing why he had stopped in the first place) and he got out and yelled, "Jogger, you are to stop running immediately and turn around so I can see your face!" He asked for my ID, and I told him I didn't have it because I had jogging shorts on (I was wearing nylon jogging shorts, a t-shirt, and jogging shoes, had my iPod in my hand, and earbuds in, and I had my house key tied into the knot of my shoelaces). He asked me a bunch of questions about where I lived, where I worked, who he could call to verify what I was saying, etc. I asked if I was in trouble for something, and his immediate response was, "Why are you asking me that? Did you do something to GET yourself into trouble?" At that point I told him, no, and that I was going to be contacting a lawyer as soon as I was let go. He gave me some line about him being able to question me as much as he wanted since I hadn't been able to properly identify myself, and then let me go on before too long. I had one of my lawyer buddies write a letter to the Fort Mitchell police chief, and they responded in writing with an official statement of apology, and they told me the officer would be reprimanded. Proof positive that 95% of the time, Fort Mitchell police have absolutely nothing better to do with their time.[/quote'] You sir, just outlined my post above this one. They were harassing you, basically throwing stuff out there hoping you could incriminate yourself. Which is against your rights, you also did not have to show ID. People must understand Cops have to go find their work, esp in KY it just doesn't come to them always. We are not in LA, but they can't illegally harass people unless they have reasonable suspicion to do so.
February 24, 201412 yr I have family with law degrees from OSU' date=' so if a cop is pulling me over to "snoop" he's wasting his time. If I'm breaking the law that is fair game, but in my opinion they prey on the public who doesn't know their rights.[/quote'] If someone doesn't know their rights, that's their own fault.
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