Didn't realize you thought Christian beliefs and other things that go with being a Christian were crap.

 

Jim thinks everything is crap except for his weird music collection.

But I also don't see the big deal in letting the girl change it.

 

 

Because then you have to change EVERYONE'S number when they don't like the number given to them.

I, like you, am a Christian and have deep seeded faith. If you want to attach some deep significance to a number referenced a zillion years ago, fine, but please don't spin this girl as a victim. That, she most assuredly, is not.

 

Again I think this is a non issue to me personally. But from your statement you seem to believe you get to what should and should not be important for other peoples religious beliefs.

I truly hope and pray if anyone in her life ever needs open heart surgery, they don't use a medical journal from 200 years ago.

 

Not to mention, taking this stance doesn't equal having "such a strong faith". That would imply those Christians that think this is silly have weak faith. She may well have a heart of gold and treats people well at every turn, but this situation is not evidence of that.

 

Again mocking another persons faith.

Because then you have to change EVERYONE'S number when they don't like the number given to them.

 

No you wouldn't allowing flexibilty for religious reasons has been a tradition in the country since it's start. Now if it were my daughter I'd have let her knew wearing that number wouldn't affect her relationship with God. But I'm also not going to judge another christians belief or her relationship with God.

 

There isn't some sort of large up tick in people wanting to switch numbers at cross country event. I doubt letting one girl change her number due to religion was going to change that.

 

Also like someone said before why were there 666 numbers to hand out. What event had that many runners? Meet of champions?

Again mocking another persons faith.

 

That was in no way, shape, or form mocking anyone's faith.

 

His 2nd paragraph is 100% spot on.

No you wouldn't allowing flexibilty for religious reasons has been a tradition in the country since it's start. Now if it were my daughter I'd have let her knew wearing that number wouldn't affect her relationship with God. But I'm also not going to judge another christians belief or her relationship with God.

 

There isn't some sort of large up tick in people wanting to switch numbers at cross country event. I doubt letting one girl change her number due to religion was going to change that.

 

Also like someone said before why were there 666 numbers to hand out. What event had that many runners? Meet of champions?

 

Why should religious reasons be treated with more importance than any other reason at a public event that isn't sanctioned by a religious body? If they let her change from 666 then if I get 37 I want 12 because 12 is my lucky number. Her reason shouldn't be any more important than mine and if she can change I want to change also.

 

That is the example they would be setting by allowing her to change her number.

Because then you have to change EVERYONE'S number when they don't like the number given to them.

 

Bingo. And believe me, if they think they can change it, it would happen a lot.

Again I think this is a non issue to me personally. But from your statement you seem to believe you get to what should and should not be important for other peoples religious beliefs.

 

Really? Even though I specifically say, "if you want to attach some deep significance to a number referenced a zillion years ago, fine..."? I'm actually saying directly that I'm NOT telling them what should be important.

 

What I did say is when you don't get your way, please don't expect to be treated as a victim.

I just find it incredibly ignorant and stupid that one would get that bent out of shape over a meaningless number.

 

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I have no problem with the young lady holding to her beliefs and convictions. Like others have said, I applaud her for doing that. I also have no problem with race officials not changing the number for her if that is the rule. It was her choice to make and she made it.

 

I don't share the aversion to the number 666 that some Christians do, but I understand where they are coming from and I respect their right to believe what they want. I won't ridicule it or look down my nose at them for it even though I do not believe it carries the significance that they want to apply to it.

 

I am not sure this young lady was acting out in an attempt to get attention, or playing the victim. If she was, then I part ways with her at that point, but we don't know that was the case. I don't know who publicized the incident. It is the kind of thing that people on both sides like to call attention to because it is polarizing. I have a feeling it was some of the adults involved who alerted the media to the issue.

 

Before I criticize anyone involved, does anybody know who made this public?

Why should religious reasons be treated with more importance than any other reason at a public event that isn't sanctioned by a religious body? If they let her change from 666 then if I get 37 I want 12 because 12 is my lucky number. Her reason shouldn't be any more important than mine and if she can change I want to change also.

 

That is the example they would be setting by allowing her to change her number.

 

I don't know something called Freedom of relgion?

That was in no way, shape, or form mocking anyone's faith.

 

His 2nd paragraph is 100% spot on.

 

Calling someones belief silly, is mocking them by definition.

Why should religious reasons be treated with more importance than any other reason at a public event that isn't sanctioned by a religious body? If they let her change from 666 then if I get 37 I want 12 because 12 is my lucky number. Her reason shouldn't be any more important than mine and if she can change I want to change also.

 

That is the example they would be setting by allowing her to change her number.

 

There are more than a few that would be offended that religious convictions are being equated with lucky numbers. I suppose tolerance is only virtue when it applies to anyone but people of faith.

 

In the last 40 years the United States has gone to great lengths to not discriminate against peoples religious convictions and this has extended to athletics. Does the KHSAA make uniform concessions? Does the NCAA make schools play on Sunday? I am sure there are other examples. There was a reason the KHSAA released a statement yesterday and my guess it wasn't strictly to control the PR machine they fear.

 

I would suggest you keeping running your mouth PP and keeping showing how little you grasp here.

The real question I have for this thread is why is UKMustang coming off so angry and passionate about a teenage girls religious belief surronding a number. Is this issue really that big of deal. At the end of the day I will forget this topic soon as I quit reading it. My only point was while I may not hold the same belief as the girl if I were a race offical I probably would of nipped the issue from the start and gave the girl a different number.