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Kentucky Cross Country Runner Pulls Out of Regional Championship Over "Bib" Number

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There are more than a few who would be offended that their lucky numbers are being equated with religious convictions. Why is it always a one way street with the holier-than-thou?

 

Oh, wait.....I just answered my own question.

 

I'm far from one those people you are describing. I do believe in the constitution though. People's religious beliefs are protected , their favorite number isn't. I wish Thomas Jefferson would of thought of that but he didn't.

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If you wanted to change your number because you got "23" and MJ gives you nightmares knowing Kobe wouldn't catch him. I'd support you.

 

:lol:

 

Excellent. :thumb:

If you have a religious belief to change a number my stance is the same with you as they would be with her. Changing a number doesn't bug me. A few of you are making very bad analogies. A majority of the people in this race are just going to take whatever number they are handed and run. We had one girl in this race who on religious reasons was offended by a number "666". Whether you agree or disagree with her stance it's a well known and held religious belief in the Christian faith what the number represents.

 

If you wanted to change your number because you got "23" and MJ gives you nightmares knowing Kobe wouldn't catch him. I'd support you.

 

 

Serious question.

 

Would the same Freedom of religion rules apply for an atheist who was given the number 7 and said they didn't want the number 7?

That's one of my lucky numbers also. Mainly because of Wu Tang Clan.

 

I don't get your point about lucky number. Are you saying because a number is your lucky number I should have to wear it? Where is someones lucky number protected under law. I missed it.

Serious question.

 

Would the same Freedom of religion rules apply for an atheist who was given the number 7 and said they didn't want the number 7?

 

I did read an article recently where one court, and I forget the state is now recgonizing Atheism as religion. So to answer your questions if the court recgnozied it as a relgion and the reason they didn't want to wear #7 is because of atheist beliefs. Then no I wouldn't have a problem. Not a single bit.

 

The bigger question I have for some you , why do you care so much about a number a teenage girl doesn't want to wear. How does her choice not to want a number affect you?

She may have. But the coach had the information.

 

Understood but he, like most of us, didn't see a problem with it. As others have said, better communication would have been nice. The officials are certainly in the clear in my mine.

But due to religious reasons, I'm unable to wear #40. It symbolizes the number of days Jesus spend in the desert being tempted by Satan. I don't want to be tempted 40 times by Satan while I'm running. Let's remove it.

 

Where does it end?

 

I agree removing a number is overboard. But if you didn't want to wear it for the reason above I'd have no problem.

I don't get your point about lucky number. Are you saying because a number is your lucky number I should have to wear it? Where is someones lucky number protected under law. I missed it.

 

 

Just cracking a joke. I mentioned 12 was my lucky number earlier and when UKMF used 36 as an example I got happy because that is one of my lucky numbers as well. A fella can't have enough lucky numbers. If I was in a race and my bib number was 1236, I'd kick some serious butt.

In the original article, the coach is quoted as saying something along the lines of when she saw the number that the girl had been assigned, she thought she'd have an issue with it. If that's the truth, and the school/coach had the number for 4 days prior to the race, and the coach didn't inform the girl or request a number change beforehand, this is 100% on the coach.

 

Agreed.

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The bigger question I have for some you , why do you care so much about a number a teenage girl doesn't want to wear. How does her choice not to want a number affect you?

 

You keep bringing this up, yet you've easily had the most posts in this thread...:lol2:

 

I haven't seen anyone who cares if she wears it or not. I started the thread because I thought it was interesting and wanted to see if others thought "666" was such a controversial number. This is a discussion board, right? Discussing various topics is what posters do here, right?

Again, it doesn't matter what religion and what their methods of practicing said religion are. If we're gonna make exceptions for one, we have to do that for another, or else we aren't living up to the concept of freedom of religion, but in fact conceding things to one particular brand of faith just because it's the most popular.

 

The courts have to recognize you as a religion. Some con man off the street can't just start the religion of Smurfdom today and be granted that same rights tomorrow.

 

That isn't how it works.

If I was in a race and my bib number was 1236, I'd kick some serious butt.

 

No you wouldn't.

 

#fatjason, not #fastjason

Just cracking a joke. I mentioned 12 was my lucky number earlier and when UKMF used 36 as an example I got happy because that is one of my lucky numbers as well. A fella can't have enough lucky numbers. If I was in a race and my bib number was 1236, I'd kick some serious butt.

 

I'd be 666

You keep bringing this up, yet you've easily had the most posts in this thread...:lol2:

 

I haven't seen anyone who cares if she wears it or not. I started the thread because I thought it was interesting and wanted to see if others thought "666" was such a controversial number. This is a discussion board, right? Discussing various topics is what posters do here, right?

 

O I'll admit I'm bored.

As I said, if it's easy go ahead and concede them. This would have been an easy concession. Most people could care less so why make a big deal out of it?

 

She's the one who made a big deal of it. Each runner is coded into the computer time-keeping system with a particular number, and numbers are assigned based on school. For example, at Saturday's Class 1A state meet, Louisville Holy Cross' girls runners will wear 382-387. KCD is next in the alphabetical list, and their lone runner is 388. Lee County comes next, and their two are 389-390. Once all the competitors in the girls' 2A race have been assigned a number — 503 is the final number used for the last Williamsburg runner in that race.

 

My guess is pulling off a number and assigning a different one to a particular person would create a number of logistical difficulties in terms of scoring and keeping organized what runner is with what team. Also, track and cross country officials are notoriously anal about everything on a uniform being "just so," and a last-minute change like that would definitely spill the applecart.

 

There are opportunities for more kids to make look-at-me statements on Saturday:

 

Cole Rains of Bell Co. in the boys' 2A race and Van Games of BG in the girls' 3A race both wear 666.

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