And I don't disagree, I said from the beginning she's well within her right to stand up for her beliefs. That doesn't mean I can't think her particular belief that a meaningless number will somehow diminish her relationship with God is ridiculous.

 

Not exactly what you said from the beginning. :jump:

I'm Catholic so I wouldn't call it without meaning. In the Catholic faith we believe 666 has that meaning. But I'm with you in that I don't think it's some sort of cursed number that will bring harm. I think has more to do with symbolism.

 

I'm Catholic as well. 666 is a number. Nothing more.

Not exactly what you said from the beginning. :jump:

 

Yes, actually it is. Go back and read the first two posts I made in here.

I'm Catholic as well. 666 is a number. Nothing more.

 

In the Catholic faith 666 is a symbol for Satan. We just don't believe it holds some sort of curse or voodoo.

Therein lies the problem.

 

The line of people who do not support freedom of religion forms behind Jim. Who is with him? :jump:

 

Like everyone else, you're misunderstanding my points and position. All I'm pointing out is if we make exceptions for this one, we have to do it for everyone else, no matter how flimsy their "religious" reasons are. Therein lies the problem — as a country, we've made years of exceptions for one particular faith and have gotten used to that environment, but we don't want to make those same exceptions if it's for a faith that's "not ours."

In the Catholic faith 666 is a symbol for Satan. We just don't believe it holds some sort of curse or voodoo.

 

I know what the church says it's a symbol of. Doesn't at all change the fact that the digit "6" three times in a row is nothing more than a number.

Because you are of the Christian faith, therefore you are elevating it above all others in terms of importance. Therein lies the problem when we live in a country where freedom of religion is one of the planks. Who's to say my hypothetical numerologist isn't as devout in their faith as someone who practices one of the 2,000-dozen different stripes of Christianity?

 

 

 

That's not what I said. I said that Protestant Christians go out of their way to look for reasons to complain that they're being put upon or discriminated against, when the fact is the cards have been stacked in their favor for the entirety of our country's existence. That's why I included the part in there about the mantra, which you did not bold.

 

I do put Christianity above numerology, but not other religions. However, if your hypothetical had a problem with a number I'd say sure, here's the next one. No big deal. You're really stretching here Jim but you usually do when discussing religion, or at least Christianity.

If you dont stand for something, you fall for anything. Im glad she had the guts to do what she did, regardless of the criticism she gets on here from posters who feel it isnt a big deal. Maybe it is a big deal to her, its her choice and she made it, why bash her for her belief.

Not true. It must be a recognized religion to fall under freedom of religion.

 

What authority does the recognizing?

 

Jim serious question. Why do you tie every indivdual who believes in freedom of religion into some sort of bible thumping snaking charming nut. I'm not some right wing evangical , I just believe in the constitution. You can't believe in seperation of church and state and then ignore the rest of the right/law that says everyone has the right to practice their religion as long as they don't infringe on other peoples rights. I don't care if you are a snake charmer, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu. You could replace any person of any faith with this article my response would of been the exact same.

 

You're oversimplifying my position on this. I'm a firm believer in the concept of freedom of religion. It's what keeps us from becoming some wacky fundamentalist Baptist-esque theocracy where dancing and drinking anything else fun is not permitted, a world I do not enjoy living in from my experiences living in Kentucky's dry counties.

 

My whole point is that if the belief doesn't affect me then I don't see the big deal. Did giving the girl a different number affect another person in a negative way? Freedom of religion is a big deal regardless of how silly the belief is in this country. As long as said belief does not infringe on other peoples right we of all faith should support the freedom regardless of the level of silly.

 

Again, if they change her number they have to do it for everyone else. What if every runner in the world suddenly decided they had to have 7 as their number because of its religious associations? See the bag of worms that's being opened here?

I do put Christianity above numerology, but not other religions. However, if your hypothetical had a problem with a number I'd say sure, here's the next one. No big deal. You're really stretching here Jim but you usually do when discussing religion, or at least Christianity.

 

Why? What difference does it make? Where do you draw the line at what is religion and what is cult? Do you make exceptions for Wiccans?

I don't know something called Freedom of relgion?

 

 

How would Freedom of religion allow her to the privilege to change her number and not allow me to have a choice as well?

Just eliminate 666 from the pool of available numbers and it will never be drawn.

There are more than a few that would be offended that religious convictions are being equated with lucky numbers. I suppose tolerance is only virtue when it applies to anyone but people of faith.

 

In the last 40 years the United States has gone to great lengths to not discriminate against peoples religious convictions and this has extended to athletics. Does the KHSAA make uniform concessions? Does the NCAA make schools play on Sunday? I am sure there are other examples. There was a reason the KHSAA released a statement yesterday and my guess it wasn't strictly to control the PR machine they fear.

 

I would suggest you keeping running your mouth PP and keeping showing how little you grasp here.

 

There are more than a few who would be offended that their lucky numbers are being equated with religious convictions. Why is it always a one way street with the holier-than-thou?

 

Oh, wait.....I just answered my own question.

Just eliminate 666 from the pool of available numbers and it will never be drawn.

 

 

But that offends me. What did the numbers 666 do to hurt anyone?

 

 

I say if it's a church sanctioned event then do so. If not, fair game.

What authority does the recognizing?

 

 

 

You're oversimplifying my position on this. I'm a firm believer in the concept of freedom of religion. It's what keeps us from becoming some wacky fundamentalist Baptist-esque theocracy where dancing and drinking anything else fun is not permitted, a world I do not enjoy living in from my experiences living in Kentucky's dry counties.

 

 

 

Again, if they change her number they have to do it for everyone else. What if every runner in the world suddenly decided they had to have 7 as their number because of its religious associations? See the bag of worms that's being opened here?

 

 

 

This. Like X 666!!!!!