You also haven't yet earned the right to lecture a parent about an off-the-cuff comment concerning protecting their children. Until you walk in those shoes, you have no clue.

 

Besides, you made an inferrence there, he didn't actually threaten violence. If faced with the situation, I have confidence in Wireman that he wouldn't physically attack a woman.

OK, I have a kid. I'll do it for him.

OK, I have a kid. I'll do it for him.

What would be your response to an adult intentionally harming your child? What if you saw it happen?

The parents should file charges on her.

What would be your response to an adult intentionally harming your child? What if you saw it happen?

 

Hopefully my membership fee allows me the right to comment on this even though I don't have a child, but I think it depends. To me, and this is just my opinion, there are a heck of a lot worse things that could happen than them give my child alcohol. I'd probably make a phone call telling them I didn't appreciate it, and I would not allow my child to go back to that house again, and that would be the end of it.

What kills me is this stuff is on the news all the time. Dont people watch and learn from the news. You cant do that stuff.

Somewhere in Florence a coach smirks.

What would be your response to an adult intentionally harming your child? What if you saw it happen?

If another parent got my kid drunk while under their care I would beat wholesale tail...

 

...but my kid is just under 2, so it's a little different.

 

If my kid were 13 or 14 came home buzzed at a house party, and the parent may or may not have been complicit? I'm not going to physically assault them. I'll probably just let that parent know that I don't think it's a good idea for the kids or for the parent, and not let my kid go back over there unless I thought it wasn't intentional; not from a moral judgement but because letting someone else's 13 year old get drunk at your place is a sign of very poor judgement and I wouldn't trust them to make responsible decisions in other areas.

Hopefully my membership fee allows me the right to comment on this even though I don't have a child, but I think it depends. To me, and this is just my opinion, there are a heck of a lot worse things that could happen than them give my child alcohol. I'd probably make a phone call telling them I didn't appreciate it, and I would not allow my child to go back to that house again, and that would be the end of it.

I give this response my Parent Seal of Approval. You are now cleared to have this opinion.

Hopefully my membership fee allows me the right to comment on this even though I don't have a child, but I think it depends. To me, and this is just my opinion, there are a heck of a lot worse things that could happen than them give my child alcohol. I'd probably make a phone call telling them I didn't appreciate it, and I would not allow my child to go back to that house again, and that would be the end of it.

I can appreciate that, but I don't think I would let them off that easy. I would probably have that conversation in person to ensure my message was received. In almost every case I would also call the local authorities.

 

There was a case several years ago here in town where a doctor would allow his teenage child to throw parties at his home on the weekends when the doctor would go out of town. Doctor knew what was going on but condoned it with an "At least I know where they are at attitude." One night a couple of teenagers got into a fight and a gun was brought out, a few moments later a third uninvolved teen lay dying in the doctors drive way. Honestly until this episode I really never gave those types of parties much thought, but I guess due to this I would never let something like this just happen without reacting and reporting it.

Hopefully my membership fee allows me the right to comment on this even though I don't have a child, but I think it depends. To me, and this is just my opinion, there are a heck of a lot worse things that could happen than them give my child alcohol. I'd probably make a phone call telling them I didn't appreciate it, and I would not allow my child to go back to that house again, and that would be the end of it.

 

The problem is that those "heck of a lot worse things" could happen as a result of that alcohol being given to your future child. If a future daughter was raped after an adult gave her alcohol and she passed out, would you hold the parent (assuming they didn't participate in the rape) in any way responsible? What about if that daughter got behind the wheel and killed herself? What if your daughter was completely sober and another driver, who had been given alcohol by an adult, killed your daughter?

At 13 or 14 years old I have a hard time figuring out how they'd get behind the wheel of a car?

 

Along the same lines, those "a whole heck of a lot worse things" could also happen to my child if they walk up the street to the mailbox, or if they're being a safe passenger in a car that I'm driving, or if they're at a movie theater, or the mall, etc., etc....Maybe the child shouldn't ever be allowed outside of their room? :idunno:

I can appreciate that, but I don't think I would let them off that easy. I would probably have that conversation in person to ensure my message was received. In almost every case I would also call the local authorities.

 

There was a case several years ago here in town where a doctor would allow his teenage child to throw parties at his home on the weekends when the doctor would go out of town. Doctor knew what was going on but condoned it with an "At least I know where they are at attitude." One night a couple of teenagers got into a fight and a gun was brought out, a few moments later a third uninvolved teen lay dying in the doctors drive way. Honestly until this episode I really never gave those types of parties much thought, but I guess due to this I would never let something like this just happen without reacting and reporting it.

Two things:

 

There was no adult supervision in that case, so it's not the same thing. Imagine if the laws were different and you could let 18 year-olds drink in your house as long as you are there. Then the doctor wouldn't have felt the need to go to the lake while his kid had parties and this wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying this is a good law, just for the sake of argument.

 

The second thing is why aren't we also concerned about the gun at a party full of teenagers in this story? I am WAY more worried about my kid going to a house party that is going to have armed teenagers than going to a house party where people will be drinking. That's just me.

At 13 or 14 years old I have a hard time figuring out how they'd get behind the wheel of a car?

 

Along the same lines, those "a whole heck of a lot worse things" could also happen to my child if they walk up the street to the mailbox, or if they're being a safe passenger in a car that I'm driving, or if they're at a movie theater, or the mall, etc., etc....Maybe the child shouldn't ever be allowed outside of their room? :idunno:

 

Someone who never smokes in their life can get cancer but smoking or other things increase the risk of cancer developing. Point is while it is true all those things could happen any number of places or for any number of reasons drinking increases the risk of those things happening.

At 13 or 14 years old I have a hard time figuring out how they'd get behind the wheel of a car?

 

Along the same lines, those "a whole heck of a lot worse things" could also happen to my child if they walk up the street to the mailbox, or if they're being a safe passenger in a car that I'm driving, or if they're at a movie theater, or the mall, etc., etc....Maybe the child shouldn't ever be allowed outside of their room? :idunno:

 

It happens. :lol2::lol2:

 

 

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Two things:

 

There was no adult supervision in that case, so it's not the same thing. Imagine if the laws were different and you could let 18 year-olds drink in your house as long as you are there. Then the doctor wouldn't have felt the need to go to the lake while his kid had parties and this wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying this is a good law, just for the sake of argument.

 

The second thing is why aren't we also concerned about the gun at a party full of teenagers in this story? I am WAY more worried about my kid going to a house party that is going to have armed teenagers than going to a house party where people will be drinking. That's just me.

There was much concern and a conviction, but this was a discussion about alcohol and teenagers. I used this as an example of parents sometimes cavalier ideas about alcohol, whether they are present or not.