My opinion is: #1-

..........nobody was killed at all and this whole thing was a stunt?

 

It's a diversion(as all of O's tactics are) to get your emotions to overtake your brain on this gun control deal. Smoke and mirrors is the only way he can get his stupid ideas passed.

You need help.

At this point I would rule out #1.

 

Some indicated that the fact that some of the victims were in posed photos with the (almost same) backdrop was a sign of fraud. But it was more likely these are school pictures with the same backdrop. Doing a quick compare of some pictures it was clear - the backdrop was the same. But doing some photoshop based analysis it became obvious that the backdrops are not digital replications - i.e. they are similar but not bit-for-bit copies of each other. The differences would be explained in a backdrop that is blurred slightly differently by the camera each time. So, sadly, the conclusion is that these people are not vic-sims. Also, on of the victims was Ana Greene. Her father is a well known Jazz player. This one stands out as it would not make sense to 'create' a daughter of such a well known person. There is a video of her and her brother at a piano also. It is sad to watch. She is on the lower left below. Her picture is from a picture of a picture.

 

Here is a composite of 6 of the victims with similar (but not digitally copied) backgrounds. Some of these pictures have been flipped by news agencies - probably for editorial aesthetics. I had to flip 1 or 2 of these to match up the backgrounds. This 'flipping' is common with digital pictures.

 

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Your reaching. You realize school pics are taken using the same back ground.

When you have some facts come talk to me. Other wise I am done reading this nonsense. You guys have nothing but speculation and inaccurate media info (shocking they messed stuff up). Sure the government might be pushing a gun agenda based on the events but to act like they setup the entire thing or that it is all a complete hoax is just stupid and is ignoring all common sense a person might have.

 

Facts? Who needs facts? :lol: I still can't believe some people on here are being serious.

Facts? Who needs facts? :lol: I still can't believe some people on here are being serious.

Makes me want to rehash GWB crashing planes into the towers so he could invade Iraq and finish was his daddy didnt.

Dead kids does make truth and accuracy out of untruths and distortion. And, again for what ever the reason may be, Mr. Rosen has told different stories, different ways and make impossible things up in his many interviews.

 

Just one example.

 

A message from beyond: Peace in Newtown - CNN.com

 

 

"That day, he heard staccato gunfire -- Boom! Boom! Boom! -- coming from the vicinity of the school. The retired psychologist convinced himself it was fireworks."

 

 

Gene Rosen, Newtown Resident, Took In 6 Children During Sandy Hook Shooting

 

"Rosen said he had heard the staccato sound of gunfire about 15 minutes earlier but dismissed it as an obnoxious hunter in the nearby woods."

 

 

Hunter, fireworks - whatever. I have to say I am not familiar with "staccato" but someone likes the word.

 

Hunter? Its a residential area! He has lived there for 20 years. Though reported as 'wooded' and rural the entire school building is surrounded by lots that around 1 acre - including his. This is no open wooded area for a hunter in that area.

 

There is the children being with the 'agitated man' ... or is it the 'woman bus driver'... OK, so he is old he may not be able to tell the difference.

 

But he gives one interview where he indicates he looks on the victim list and the name of a child a mother was looking for....was on it....

 

The problem - the list did not come out till late Saturday. So this story was pure fabrication - for what ever reason.

 

 

 

So he maybe a nice old man but before he gives another interview he should write it down. Maybe he can add that he had coffee with the armed 'off-duty' police officer from another town who was on school property in the woods that morning.

 

Staccato is a very commonly known word for people with even a basic music background.

 

I'm sorry, but help me with your point about the 1 acre? My house sits on one acre and a couple of acres away I have a wooded area that encompasses quite a few acres.

Staccato is a very commonly known word for people with even a basic music background.

 

I'm sorry, but help me with your point about the 1 acre? My house sits on one acre and a couple of acres away I have a wooded area that encompasses quite a few acres.

 

Funny that he feels comfortable questioning whether or not the guy actually believed it was a hunters gunshots considering its highly unlikely he's ever been to that place.

Your reaching. You realize school pics are taken using the same back ground.

 

That is exactly what I said. Others have indicated it is a sign of photoshoping.

Staccato is a very commonly known word for people with even a basic music background.

 

I'm sorry, but help me with your point about the 1 acre? My house sits on one acre and a couple of acres away I have a wooded area that encompasses quite a few acres.

 

If you want go look at the PVA map or just Google map it.

 

The lots all around the school are 1 acre give or take. And they are private. The school it self is a gun free zone. There is a park - with a pool and baseball field and a soccer field on the other side of the school Otherise its a suburban type environment. There is a children's adventure center adjoining the firehouse. Hunter in this environment? I am adjacent to 80+ acres and they used like to shoot right off our property line. At 7 a.m. on a Sunday that can be a little unnerving but they only fire a few rounds. The point is that hunters would not be in that area. Another reason they would not - Deer season for rifle was over December 10th in CT.

 

But the hunter story was December 17th. On December 23rd it was fireworks - but still 'staccato' noise.

 

Do you have hunters frequent your 1 acre lots with .30-06 looking for deer very often?

If you want go look at the PVA map or just Google map it.

 

The lots all around the school are 1 acre give or take. And they are private. The school it self is a gun free zone. There is a park - with a pool and baseball field and a soccer field on the other side of the school Otherise its a suburban type environment. There is a children's adventure center adjoining the firehouse. Hunter in this environment? I am adjacent to 80+ acres and they used like to shoot right off our property line. At 7 a.m. on a Sunday that can be a little unnerving but they only fire a few rounds. The point is that hunters would not be in that area. Another reason they would not - Deer season for rifle was over December 10th in CT.

 

But the hunter story was December 17th. On December 23rd it was fireworks - but still 'staccato' noise.

 

Do you have hunters frequent your 1 acre lots with .30-06 looking for deer very often?

 

Perhaps he was informed after the fact that gun season was already over, and he amended his statement wondering if it was instead fireworks. The point being, only hunters usually know when hunting season is. My guess is this guy doesn't hunt.

When you have some facts come talk to me. Other wise I am done reading this nonsense. You guys have nothing but speculation and inaccurate media info (shocking they messed stuff up). Sure the government might be pushing a gun agenda based on the events but to act like they setup the entire thing or that it is all a complete hoax is just stupid and is ignoring all common sense a person might have.

 

The Netown Bee reported the officer from the other town with a gun in the woods today. It would confirm 'the conspiracy' talk that a man WAS in the woods and taken into custody.

 

When you have any sort of answer as to why an 'off-duty' tactical team member (i.e. SWAT team) from other town is armed and in the woods on the property of a gun-free zone school the morning of mass murder please post it.

 

Yes, its nuts. Very nuts. But ignoring the obvious facts does not make it better. It looks like Herr Hitler may have been correct about the big lie.

 

Here is the 'update' from Bee.

 

 

 

One of the update is that it is confirmed that the AR was used.

 

But here. A day or 2 after the incident - not in the fog of real time reporting is a very clear update counter to that.

 

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Perhaps he was informed after the fact that gun season was already over, and he amended his statement wondering if it was instead fireworks. The point being, only hunters usually know when hunting season is. My guess is this guy doesn't hunt.

 

Probably not since he is a former actor. But there probably is never any hunting going around that area. Its like St. Mathews, not Jackson County. Lots and lots of houses around. But he used different descriptions in every interview.

 

I am more irritated the 'hunter' story was used in other places to cover for what the Bee is reporting as a 'tactical police officer from another town'. Many questioned the existance of an armed person outside the school for a month. Now, in a update you get this.

 

Like I posted - this is completely nuts. But its not adding up. The holes and gaps in information through action or inaction are everywhere:

 

- Power supposedly went out to the school at beginning of incident. So no video from inside school.

- Adam L destroyed his PC so no data from his PC. Really? Did he run the hardrive through a chipper-shredder? If the hard drive has any surface left to it data can usually be recovered. But nope - no data. End of story.

- Children are not being interviewed for more details. It would be too traumatic for them according to reports. So no more information from them.

- Car not belong to the the Lanza family at scene. Supposedly a felons car.

- A judge locks up all information on the case for 90 days when the supposed killer is already dead and there is no risk of mistrial or botched prosecution.

 

So just lots and lots of gaps and missing information. But the admission of an armed adult on school grounds before the shooting supposedly started should cause people to take notice that something is not as presented here.

 

I hate all of this.

The Netown Bee reported the officer from the other town with a gun in the woods today. It would confirm 'the conspiracy' talk that a man WAS in the woods and taken into custody.

 

When you have any sort of answer as to why an 'off-duty' tactical team member (i.e. SWAT team) from other town is armed and in the woods on the property of a gun-free zone school the morning of mass murder please post it.

 

Yes, its nuts. Very nuts. But ignoring the obvious facts does not make it better. It looks like Herr Hitler may have been correct about the big lie.

 

Here is the 'update' from Bee.

 

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One of the update is that it is confirmed that the AR was used.

 

But here. A day or 2 after the incident - not in the fog of real time reporting is a very clear update counter to that.

 

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Let's think about this.

 

If the government was in on this...don't you think the police simply would have let this mysterious man get away? Or are only certain people in the government in on this? Anyways, regardless of whether or not this mysterious man was in on it...why would the government let the media release anything about him if this was a hoax? Why would these crisis actors have said anything about the man in the first place? Why wouldn't he have been long gone before the police got there? Reports stated police got there 20 minutes after the first call...if this was a government conspiracy job he would have known how close they were at all times, no?

 

As for your earth shattering news that the media got something wrong...let me fill you in on something. The media screws up all the time. That is nothing even remotely close to proof of any hoax or conspiracy. It's proof that the media is unreliable.

Probably not since he is a former actor. But there probably is never any hunting going around that area. Its like St. Mathews, not Jackson County. Lots and lots of houses around. But he used different descriptions in every interview.

 

I am more irritated the 'hunter' story was used in other places to cover for what the Bee is reporting as a 'tactical police officer from another town'. Many questioned the existance of an armed person outside the school for a month. Now, in a update you get this.

 

Like I posted - this is completely nuts. But its not adding up. The holes and gaps in information through action or inaction are everywhere:

 

- Power supposedly went out to the school at beginning of incident. So no video from inside school.

- Adam L destroyed his PC so no data from his PC. Really? Did he run the hardrive through a chipper-shredder? If the hard drive has any surface left to it data can usually be recovered. But nope - no data. End of story.

- Children are not being interviewed for more details. It would be too traumatic for them according to reports. So no more information from them.

- Car not belong to the the Lanza family at scene. Supposedly a felons car.

- A judge locks up all information on the case for 90 days when the supposed killer is already dead and there is no risk of mistrial or botched prosecution.

 

So just lots and lots of gaps and missing information. But the admission of an armed adult on school grounds before the shooting supposedly started should cause people to take notice that something is not as presented here.

 

I hate all of this.

 

Not sure where you get your information, but I read an article recently that stated the police are confident they will retrieve everything off of Adam Lanza's hard drive. So apparently it wasn't "End of story".

 

Who did the car "supposedly" belong to? And who provide this "supposed" information?

When you have some facts come talk to me. Other wise I am done reading this nonsense. You guys have nothing but speculation and inaccurate media info (shocking they messed stuff up). Sure the government might be pushing a gun agenda based on the events but to act like they setup the entire thing or that it is all a complete hoax is just stupid and is ignoring all common sense a person might have.

That's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it.

You need help.

Yes! But, we're going to have to wait 4 years before we can get it. Hope it's not too late.