November 13, 201213 yr I think Louisiana and New York have similar petitions if these are all the same things I have seen floating around Facebook.
November 13, 201213 yr Kentucky has a petition going as well. http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17701519 At least 17 other states have similar petitions to the Texas secession request on the We the People forum including New Jersey, New York, Montana, Colorado, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, Oregon and Michigan. The closest behind Texas was Louisiana with 15,617 signatures.
November 13, 201213 yr If I recall there was war fought over secession in the 1800s. Texas has an ability to split itself into 5 states legally (and without a civil war). This would give it the ability to add 8 'Texas' senators to the Senate and shift that body.
November 13, 201213 yr So Kentucky can't secede? Good. I was wondering what happens if I don't want to secede.
November 13, 201213 yr I believe this is illegal. On what do you base this assumption? The Declaration of Independence states that when "it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another ...." The colonies and future territories ties freely joined in a union and the Constitution says nothing about being bonded together forever. Since nothing is said about it, the 10th Amendment would come into play. All matters not mentioned in some way in the Constitution are left up to the states. Therefore, I believe the states have legal standing to leave if they wish. The only recourse that Lincoln had to force the states to remain in the union that had seceded was to fight a war.
November 13, 201213 yr On what do you base this assumption? The Declaration of Independence states that when "it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another ...." The colonies and future territories ties freely joined in a union and the Constitution says nothing about being bonded together forever. Since nothing is said about it, the 10th Amendment would come into play. All matters not mentioned in some way in the Constitution are left up to the states. Therefore, I believe the states have legal standing to leave if they wish. The only recourse that Lincoln had to force the states to remain in the union that had seceded was to fight a war.[/QUOTE] A war that he won. Not all issues are settled on paper. That one was settled on the battlefield. The states would not be allowed to leave.
November 13, 201213 yr 23 states have this same petition going around and New York is one of them. In fact 11 of the states voted for Obama? That being said, Texas has what, 23,000 signatures. There isn't a true ground swell yet, just a bunch of local yokles.
November 13, 201213 yr The interesting thing about Texas is that it is quickly turning BLUE. With the Dems carrying 70% of the hispanic vote, Texas could be in play as a swing state as early as 2016 and most certainly by 2020. Although, I can't imagine a GOTV machine any better than Obama's for either party. They really wrote the book on this one. Its incredible that Romney got 2 million less votes than McCain!
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