August 16, 201214 yr I heard a stat today (no verification) that 89% of voters who vote R are white. US population is getting close to whites making up about 50% and that number has been on the downward slide. Is there a way to fix the perceived problem (ie R is the "white side") without it seeming "token-ish?" Is it or should it be a concern for the long term success of the Rs? Does having two well-to-do(Ryan) and uber-rich(Romney) present an image problem? Of course they could fix it. That would mean a lot of work and they've proven in the past that they aren't willing to put in the work to woo in the black vote.
August 16, 201214 yr Absolutely hilarious! Romney's dad was born in Mexico. Guess that is as hispanic as you can get. So the two presidential hopeful's both have fathers born outside the US. As to the wealth baiting issue-I guess we are to be more concerned as to how Romney spends HIS money than how Obama spends OURS (taxpayers). As long as minorities believe that the Democrats are doing them favors by providing handouts and empty promises, then they will continue to vote for them. Things must be great in the big cities. The truth will come crashing down, and Romey, Ryan, Obama and Biden, along with the Clinton's and bush's will all be fine. In the immortal words of Earl R. Pitts "wake up America." My vote for Obama had nothing to do with handouts or empty promises. George Bush gave me more handout money with his stimulus package than Obama did. My vote for Bush in 2004 had nothing to do with a handout George Bush gave me that I knew nothing about at the time. Minorities vote democrat because democrats relate to them and woo in the vote. I've been voting since 1992 and I have never seen the republicans make a heartfelt or true attempt to woo the black vote. They don't even try.
August 16, 201214 yr My vote for Obama had nothing to do with handouts or empty promises. George Bush gave me more handout money with his stimulus package than Obama did. My vote for Bush in 2004 had nothing to do with a handout George Bush gave me that I knew nothing about at the time. Minorities vote democrat because democrats relate to them and woo in the vote. I've been voting since 1992 and I have never seen the republicans make a heartfelt or true attempt to woo the black vote. They don't even try. What could they do that would convince blacks to vote for them? I found an interesting article once that talked about how conservative many blacks are and that when presented with different policies often agreed with the Republican policy. Yet when presented with that same policy and it was identified with the Republicans they stated that they disagreed with it.
August 16, 201214 yr Minorities vote democrat because democrats relate to them and woo in the vote. I've been voting since 1992 and I have never seen the republicans make a heartfelt or true attempt to woo the black vote. They don't even try. Came here to say this. If you want to know why Republicans struggle with minority votes then take a look at any thread involving a minority issue and notice the political leanings of the posters sympathetic versus those unmoved or even defensive. For example, look at History's characterization of minorities in this thread as poor, lazy, and helpless versus the implication that white voters are hardworking and self-reliant.
August 16, 201214 yr Author Sure. I think I know where you are going. I will vote for Romney. This election should be on the record of Obama's four years in office. he has been a failure as far as I am concerned. All the rest is just noise to take the voter off the focal point which is the incumbent. You can run all the trick plays you want, but we intend to play disciplined and win the game to make it a sports subject. To be clear, even though I mentioned Mr Romney, the focus of the thread is way past this election. What must Rs do to win more Latinos? More blacks? More Asians? Can they continue to win elections if they do nothing? Latinos are a fast-growing group in traditionally strong R states in the south.
August 16, 201214 yr What could they do that would convince blacks to vote for them? I found an interesting article once that talked about how conservative many blacks are and that when presented with different policies often agreed with the Republican policy. Yet when presented with that same policy and it was identified with the Republicans they stated that they disagreed with it. Well presented! I am not in the position to be able to answer, but am interested in the reply of those that meet the criteria.
August 16, 201214 yr Came here to say this. If you want to know why Republicans struggle with minority votes then take a look at any thread involving a minority issue and notice the political leanings of the posters sympathetic versus those unmoved or even defensive. For example, look at History's characterization of minorities in this thread as poor, lazy, and helpless versus the implication that white voters are hardworking and self-reliant. Tell me where I said that, because I didn't. But that is how you interpreted it. I don't think minorities are lazy at all. Just the opposite. However, like all humans when offered something for nothing, they gravitate towards it.
August 16, 201214 yr Minorities vote democrat because democrats relate to them and woo in the vote. I've been voting since 1992 and I have never seen the republicans make a heartfelt or true attempt to woo the black vote. They don't even try. There are policies that should appeal to certain blocks of black voters. Example school vouchers could be a vehicle to escape failing inner-city public schools. But what acknowledged black leader touts this or makes a case for the Republican or conservative oriented policies that may be beneficial? Mostly none. There are no acknowledged black conservative leaders whose primary focus in on the black segment as an entity. True? And this is a 'national level' statement. Conservative blacks are targeted worse it seems than non-blacks - by the black leader themselves. Former Obama Campaign co-leader Artur Lewis is now a throwing his support to Romney. Other than indicating he will campaign for Romney no other specific role has yet to be defined officially or otherwise for him as of now. Could he be a legitimate voice to the black community from the Romney camp?
August 16, 201214 yr Came here to say this. If you want to know why Republicans struggle with minority votes then take a look at any thread involving a minority issue and notice the political leanings of the posters sympathetic versus those unmoved or even defensive. For example, look at History's characterization of minorities in this thread as poor, lazy, and helpless versus the implication that white voters are hardworking and self-reliant. Exactly.
August 16, 201214 yr Absolutely hilarious! Romney's dad was born in Mexico. Guess that is as hispanic as you can get. So the two presidential hopeful's both have fathers born outside the US. As to the wealth baiting issue-I guess we are to be more concerned as to how Romney spends HIS money than how Obama spends OURS (taxpayers). As long as minorities believe that the Democrats are doing them favors by providing handouts and empty promises, then they will continue to vote for them. Things must be great in the big cities. The truth will come crashing down, and Romey, Ryan, Obama and Biden, along with the Clinton's and bush's will all be fine. In the immortal words of Earl R. Pitts "wake up America." Yep there is that perception, and it has been well crafted by the Democrats. Give them credit for that. Why the minorities follow them is easy-they make all the empty promises. People like Santa Claus. They just don't like the bills that come in January. [/b] Tell me where I said that, because I didn't. But that is how you interpreted it. I don't think minorities are lazy at all. Just the opposite. However, like all humans when offered something for nothing, they gravitate towards it. These are your own words. Habib is spot on.
August 17, 201214 yr Will someone please tell me the policies democrats enacted that have helped minorities? Not ones that were intended to, but the ones that have actually been helpful.
August 17, 201214 yr Will someone please tell me the policies democrats enacted that have helped minorities? Not ones that were intended to, but the ones that have actually been helpful. Voting rights act of 1965 1964 Civil Rights Act Social Security In 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed Executive Order 8802 which outlawed segregationist hiring policies by defense-related industries which held federal contracts. Roosevelt's signing of this order was a direct result of efforts by Black trade union leader, A. Philip Randolph. JFK's Executive order 10925 There is a start for you
August 17, 201214 yr Will someone please tell me the policies democrats enacted that have helped minorities? Not ones that were intended to, but the ones that have actually been helpful. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was pushed through by Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. This legislation is one of the most societal changing laws in US history. This bill led the African American vote to the Democrats and moved the south toward the Republican party. The irony is that although the bill is seen as the work of the Democrats, much of the opposition in passing it came from southern Democratic legislators.
August 17, 201214 yr The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was pushed through by Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. This legislation is one of the most societal changing laws in US history. This bill led the African American vote to the Democrats and moved the south toward the Republican party. The irony is that although the bill is seen as the work of the Democrats, much of the opposition in passing it came from southern Democratic legislators. Many of whom switched to the GOP afterward.
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