Not much of that is subjective.

 

Ultra Rich. Check.

Disconnected. Subjective but perception

Medicare vouchering - check

SSI privatization - Check for Ryan

Fertilized egg - no clue what that means

Offshore accounts - check

Voter ID restricting - subjective

 

Ultra rich is also subjective. Obama is ultra rich to me. Biden and Ryan I'm not sure. Romney is not ultra rich to Bill Gates.

 

So half of the statment is subjective and could be a poster for a moveon.org ad.Obama is ultra rich to me. Biden and Ryan I don't know about.

Why? Because he got mad about being hung out to dry by the Bush administration on making the case for war, making him look like a fool on the WMD issue?

Because he is not a Conservative. Yes, he is an honorable person, but not a Conservative. Right or wrong, that is the reason. I like Powell, but does not mean I would vote for him.

Never heard of him. Colin Powell has been the best bridge amongst blacks and republicans. When he abruptly left the Bush administration after Bush's first term and became an independent blacks all over America muttered these 8 words.....'see, I told you we couldn't trust them.'

 

I am not sure what the "couldn't trust them" is about. Could not find something on this from searching around.

 

But that is what I thought. Since Powell there has been no acknowledged national black conservative voice. And obviously, Powell threw his support to Obama in 2008 and that makes conservatives mad so he has lost support on the conservative side.

 

 

 

Interesting interview here with Hannity in May.

 

Colin Powell on 'Hannity'

My vote for Obama had nothing to do with handouts or empty promises. George Bush gave me more handout money with his stimulus package than Obama did. My vote for Bush in 2004 had nothing to do with a handout George Bush gave me that I knew nothing about at the time.

 

Minorities vote democrat because democrats relate to them and woo in the vote. I've been voting since 1992 and I have never seen the republicans make a heartfelt or true attempt to woo the black vote. They don't even try.

Great Point! What sould the GOP do to woo the black vote? I am not trying to stir something here, I think this is a great point, what should they do? This might need it's own thread.

Some people mention Reagan had much to do with African Americans not identifying with the GOP. I was too young to remember, when did Reagan do (moreso than other Repubs) that resulted in African Americans having such a view.

I do not think the majority of Republicans in charge are racist, I just think the Democrats did the best in securing the minority votes years back and have been successful is making the Republicans look like a bunch of racists because of it.

 

I believe many minorities (particularly African Americans) felt with Obama in the White House it would greatly benefit them and get them more on equal footing... fair enough. The ironic thing is that under Obama the African American unemployment rate has gotten much worse. He has actually let that segment of the vote down in that respect, though he is no danger of losing that segment of the vote.

I do not think the majority of Republicans in charge are racist, I just think the Democrats did the best in securing the minority votes years back and have been successful is making the Republicans look like a bunch of racists because of it.

 

I believe many minorities (particularly African Americans) felt with Obama in the White House it would greatly benefit them and get them more on equal footing... fair enough. The ironic thing is that under Obama the African American unemployment rate has gotten much worse. He has actually let that segment of the vote down in that respect, though he is no danger of losing that segment of the vote.

 

I don't think anyone here has said Republicans are racists. What I said, for instance, was that they are generally unbelieving that race is a factor in society and often believe white people are the victims of racial discussions. Why would minorities, whose realities are entirely different and often defined by it, lend their support to a group of people unwilling to see things from their point of view, even if they have some political agreement elsewhere? This isn’t some sort of nefarious plot by the left; it’s fairly overt, as evidenced by the many debates here and the general rhetoric of party and ideological leaders.

I don't think anyone here has said Republicans are racists. What I said, for instance, was that they are generally unbelieving that race is a factor in society and often believe white people are the victims of racial discussions. Why would minorities, whose realities are entirely different and often defined by it, lend their support to a group of people unwilling to see things from their point of view, even if they have some political agreement elsewhere? This isn’t some sort of nefarious plot by the left; it’s fairly overt, as evidenced by the many debates here and the general rhetoric of party and ideological leaders.

My bad, I was not talking about on BGP saying Republicans are racist. I am saying the higher politicians playing the race card. At least not dispelling the myth that Republicans are racist. Just like Republicans acting like Democrats do not care about Homeland Security.

Republican strategist said that this election is the last one where Rs will rely solely on the white vote.

 

Interesting read.

 

 

2012 or Never for GOP

It was interesting, not sure why strategy hasn't already changed...if it's going to change why wait?

It was interesting, not sure why strategy hasn't already changed...if it's going to change why wait?

 

I would first say it's difficult to enforce a universal strategy change across such a broad group. That's exacerbated when with groups like the Tea party who have emerged in opposition to top-down, elite direction. Second, and maybe more importantly, it's been a winning strategy, so it's hard to get people to come around to what are unpopular strategic changes in exchange for better long-term prospects. Only time will tell though.

The Hispanics I know are industious, hard working people that are generally anti-abortion. They too should be Republicans. (Everybody should be, but that is another story.)

 

If your Dad was born in Mexico and they(Hispanics) think you are against them, then at some point what do you do?

 

For one, you could support the Dream Act or similar legislation.