July 23, 201214 yr I am still struggling with the assault rifle legally acquired and used in this shooting. Why do we need such a weapon to be legal? Had he walked in and started shooting with a couple of 12 gauges this would have been much worse IMO. An AR15 is an assault weapon in name and appearance only. If you want to question them I can understand questioning the high capacity mags. The gun itself is nothing more then a semi auto .223. Had he walked in with a Remington 7400 it would have bascially been the samething.
July 23, 201214 yr If I'm playing a video game sure I might take some defensive stances. The fact that he meekly gave up once facing anyone with a gun says a lot. Maybe I don't even have to get within 30-40 feet given how big of a POS he was/is.Are you willing to sacrifice your life to gamble on his level of courage? Most mass killers are suicidal. Tehy want to go down in a blaze of "glory."
July 23, 201214 yr It's sad that this event took place and even more sad the it's being viewed as a gun control issue however this may be a wake up call to those that can legally purchase and carry a gun. If you know you're a responsible law obiding citizen then think of it as a public service as well as protection for yourself. It's definitely a protection issue. Honestly, I'm not sure I would even tell anybody I had a gun if I decided to make the purchase. Like you said in a previous post, I wouldn't advertise it, that's just asking for trouble. But having one would give me some sort of peace of mind.
July 23, 201214 yr How confident would you be that ducking and not doing any thing meant you would live? No this isn't a smack in the mouth I really want to know how cofident you would be? People who do nothing.........., do nothing. I wouldn't be confident at all. In fact, I would be only slightly more confident in ducking and trying to get out of there than I would in trading my 6 shots from my 380 for 50 from his AR15. Sure, I'd try to use my gun if trapped and given no choice... But only then. Think about this: There's a really good reason that the military uses rifles instead of pistols as a primary weapon.
July 23, 201214 yr I am still struggling with the assault rifle legally acquired and used in this shooting. Why do we need such a weapon to be legal? Honestly it's the exact same thing as sports cars, why should we allow people to purchase a car that can go 180 mph or 0-60 in 5 seconds. It's a persons choice, it's the freedom that makes America unique. If you want to require more background checks/info for someone to purchase a gun then thats fine. I own the exact same type of gun it's a Double Star AR-15 which is made in good ole Winchester, KY. I'm sure those people would like to keep their jobs and not have them taken away while a persons rights are being snuffed out as a result of some lunatics actions. FYI you can but this type of gun at your local Wal Mart.
July 23, 201214 yr It's definitely a protection issue. Honestly, I'm not sure I would even tell anybody I had a gun if I decided to make the purchase. Like you said in a previous post, I wouldn't advertise it, that's just asking for trouble. But having one would give me some sort of peace of mind. My step dad was a police officer and retired from the department a good while back, also a graduate of the FBI academy, someone I really look up to in that regard. Only officer in the area that has had to shoot someone in the past 20 some odd years, I've personally seen him encounter some pretty dicey situations but always admired how he handled them. We were told at a young age that he had his gun on him but that was only for us to know, no one else needed to know that because quite frankly people are ignorant and ignorant people do ignorant things. My sister and I understood that so we acted accordingly, other than family we never talked about or hardly even acknowleded the fact that he always had his gun on him, there's just no need for it. When I first got my gun that I regularly carry my girlfriend was telling her mom, dad and so on. I had to make it clear to her that I wasn't carrying it to show people, I was carrying it for protection.
July 23, 201214 yr I wouldn't be confident at all. In fact, I would be only slightly more confident in ducking and trying to get out of there than I would in trading my 6 shots from my 380 for 50 from his AR15. Sure, I'd try to use my gun if trapped and given no choice... But only then. Think about this: There's a really good reason that the military uses rifles instead of pistols as a primary weapon. I understand what you're saying and I respect your opinion but I own 2 of the 3 types of guns he used in this incident, I understand their capability. They are all semi-atuomatic guns, I'm going to shoot when/if I get the chance and hope it does the job, I'm not carrying my gun to wait to get cornered and then hope for the best.
July 23, 201214 yr Are you willing to sacrifice your life to gamble on his level of courage? Most mass killers are suicidal. Tehy want to go down in a blaze of "glory." Yes, I believe in the fact that someone has to do something, call my stupid if you want but I would hate myself if I didn't do more. I'm not trying to say that the way others reacted was cowardly or not how they should have. Every one is wired differently and we all feel different about things all I can say is that if I thought my life was in danger and reacting aggresively may put it in further danger I'm still going to react.
July 23, 201214 yr Ice-T's opinion:Ice-T Defends Gun Rights: "The Last Form Of Defense Against Tyranny" | RealClearPolitics
July 24, 201214 yr Ice-T's opinion:Ice-T Defends Gun Rights: "The Last Form Of Defense Against Tyranny" | RealClearPolitics I've never liked or dislike Ice T, rather I've understood his points and perspectives, I think in this one I would have to say I agree again and IMO he does come off as an educated person, he knows what he's talking about.
July 24, 201214 yr Maybe we should do away with the concealed carry and everyone carry in plain sight. Pretty sure Mr. Holmes would have had second thoughts had everyone in the theatre had a glock strapped to their hip.
July 24, 201214 yr Maybe we should do away with the concealed carry and everyone carry in plain sight. Pretty sure Mr. Holmes would have had second thoughts had everyone in the theatre had a glock strapped to their hip. I agree with what you are saying, but if the theatre has a no carry policy.......
July 24, 201214 yr I agree with what you are saying, but if the theatre has a no carry policy....... Agsin what I'm getting at is the fact that in an open CCW state this place didn't allow guns. Might as well paint a target on the place.
July 24, 201214 yr Frum: Fear drives opposition to gun control http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/opinion/frum-guns/index.html?c=&page=3 And a gun in the house is not a guarantee of personal security -- it is instead a standing invitation to family tragedy. The cold dead hands from which they pry the gun are very unlikely to be the hands of a heroic minuteman defending home and hearth against intruders. They are much more likely to be the hands of a troubled adolescent or a clumsy child. In the land of the Second Amendment, nobody will take your guns away. But if you love your children, you should get rid of them voluntarily.
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