And in the semi-finals they beat a 6A team and a 5A team...

 

Don't hand me that All A stuff, that is just a tournament and not a state champion.

 

We need a class playoff system.

 

Agree? Disagree? Why?

The only reason I don't like a class playoff system in basketball is that you can one or two players who can have a huge impact on a team's success. In other words, you don't need a large enrollment to draw from like football (normally). Shelby Valley won it a couple of years ago, what is their enrollment? Wow, it just hit me........you might be being sarcastic on this topic. Anyway, for what it's worth, I say keep it open. No classes.

I like the All A Classic, and it gives small schools two bites at the apple, so to speak. Just a few years ago, we had Clinton County make it to the state championship game, and there are often three or four small schools that make it to the Sweet 16.

 

Lexington Christian won the title once or twice and Rose Hill made it to the finals one year ... I know, those are private schools.

So, is what's good for the goose also good for the gander?

I like the fact that we have one true state champion, makes Kentucky basketball extra special.

I like the fact that we have one true state champion, makes Kentucky basketball extra special.

From a pure perspective that is true but just think how many other teams and young men and women would get to experience the state tournament atmosphere if there were divisions. Personally speaking my child plays in a district with 2 6A schools who have the ability to attract quality players outside their school districts. I am not questioning or criticizing any parent, player or coach for transfers but I do think it would allow more kids to enjoy being a state champion. For life experiences in the future I think it would be much more rewarding for young people if you crowned six champions instead of one.

From a pure perspective that is true but just think how many other teams and young men and women would get to experience the state tournament atmosphere if there were divisions. Personally speaking my child plays in a district with 2 6A schools who have the ability to attract quality players outside their school districts. I am not questioning or criticizing any parent, player or coach for transfers but I do think it would allow more kids to enjoy being a state champion. For life experiences in the future I think it would be much more rewarding for young people if you crowned six champions instead of one.

 

That would be stupid, just like football. The more state champions, the less it means.

Then let's go to 4 classes. Then if you want an overall championship, let the winners play. Blind draw and let em play.

If the KHSAA was truely interested in what's best for the students, and solely what's best for the students, then there would be classes to allow more state champions, and more teams to play in state championship games. It would also give many, many, more teams a realistic chance of being playing in a state championship game. Any arguement that is used to support football classes, applies here. If it's truely just about the kids.

 

But, this is a money issue. Too much money could POTENTIALLY be lost if the state ever went to a class system. I capped potentially, because we really don't know until it's tried. Not a risk the KHSAA is going to take.

Then let's go to 4 classes. Then if you want an overall championship, let the winners play. Blind draw and let em play.

 

Sorry, Madman, I must differ with you on this one. This a recipe for disaster. Go no further than across the river to our Hoosier friends. They have truly slain their goose that kept laying golden eggs each spring. Yes, a few got what they wanted - the small schools - but it has diluted the product and made pedestrian what had formerly been the king of state high basketball tournaments (with Kentucky being a close second).

 

Having spent about an equal amount of my life on both sides of the river, my observations are that the Kentucky tourney is now the king of state tournaments.

 

Why change what is the best in order to become common and generic? With the free and loose applications of transfer rules that allow schools to become collections of talent from nearby schools instead of developers of local talent, school size is not that much of a factor. The irony is that is happening among public schools, which makes many of their arguments moot when it comes to complaining about private schools doing the same. It ain't broke - so let's not start to try to fix it.

Sorry, Madman, I must differ with you on this one. This a recipe for disaster. Go no further than across the river to our Hoosier friends. They have truly slain their goose that kept laying golden eggs each spring. Yes, a few got what they wanted - the small schools - but it has diluted the product and made pedestrian what had formerly been the king of state high basketball tournaments (with Kentucky being a close second).

 

Having spent about an equal amount of my life on both sides of the river, my observations are that the Kentucky tourney is now the king of state tournaments.

 

Why change what is the best in order to become common and generic? With the free and loose applications of transfer rules that allow schools to become collections of talent from nearby schools instead of developers of local talent, school size is not that much of a factor. The irony is that is happening among public schools, which makes many of their arguments moot when it comes to complaining about private schools doing the same. It ain't broke - so let's not start to try to fix it.

Agreed. Good post.

Agreed. Good post.

What benefit is there to hundreds of kids that get left out because there is ONE champion? Interesting to me that there is an all A tournament which I attended for the first time this year and thought it was great, why not 2A classic and so on. In my opinion because so many think this is the best tournament including KSHAA that the opportunity to help build many more young champions that eventually will become leaders would go a lot further than crowning one PURE champion. Kentucky has classifications in almost every other sport. We live in a politically correct society that has broaden so many channels to allow children to excel why not KSHAA basketball. just my 2 cents

But, this is a money issue. Too much money could POTENTIALLY be lost if the state ever went to a class system. I capped potentially, because we really don't know until it's tried. Not a risk the KHSAA is going to take.

 

I would almost think that it would mean more money for the KHSAA, not less. More games, equals more attendance. But, you're not going to see all the games, except maybe the championships played at Rupp.

 

I hope they never change it. One state champion. This is like the, "let's give every kid a trophy" argument.

 

As for the creating leaders comment. That is done throughout hard work on and off the court, in practice and in games. Leading your team throughout any adversity In and out of the classroom, pushing yourself. If you're telling me that some kid from a small school in the middle of nowhere is going to become a much better leader because he/she got to play one extra game in the state tournament, then I think your and my definition of a leader differs greatly. Good experience for the kids, sure. But KY has one of, if not the best state tournaments in the country...and it needs to stay that way.

I would almost think that it would mean more money for the KHSAA, not less. More games, equals more attendance. But, you're not going to see all the games, except maybe the championships played at Rupp.

 

I hope they never change it. One state champion. This is like the, "let's give every kid a trophy" argument.

As for the creating leaders comment. That is done throughout hard work on and off the court, in practice and in games. Leading your team throughout any adversity In and out of the classroom, pushing yourself. If you're telling me that some kid from a small school in the middle of nowhere is going to become a much better leader because he/she got to play one extra game in the state tournament, then I think your and my definition of a leader differs greatly. Good experience for the kids, sure. But KY has one of, if not the best state tournaments in the country...and it needs to stay that way.

 

Only on the bolded:

 

1. We'll never know. KHSAA isn't about to mess with the money the Sweet 16 provides.

 

2. So, I'm guessing you are not a fan of six class football?

 

3. I have no idea what you are talking about. What part of my post led you to this?

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Only on the bolded:

 

1. We'll never know. KHSAA isn't about to mess with the money the Sweet 16 provides.

 

2. So, I'm guessing you are not a fan of six class football?

 

3. I have no idea what you are talking about. What part of my post led you to this?

 

1. True

 

2. I will be honest, that I don't care about HS football in the slightest. And only did for the 3-4 years when I was in school and that's just because I had buddies playing.

 

3. The part about leadership was more referring to 12willyp12's post. I should have quoted his too, my apologies.