kydlineguy

Lets just wish both of the coaches good luck and hope they both walk away feeling their team played the best it possibly could.

Isn't this the same school that is that is featured in the movie "Football America" that is shown on the NFL Network?

I hate to say it but I am not a big MTV fan, although I wished a little bit of the show.

Very interesting...................this will have an interesting outcome. Does the school take the correct actions or does this get "swept inder the rug".

Having played high school in Ky, played at the DIII NCAA level and having coached in both Ky and Ohio, I think the matter of two a days are beneficial to those who do not do anything at all in June or July. KY1234 makes a great point, and that is in Ohio, we only get seven practices before Aug 2, that includes passing leagues and what not. We can lift asnd run all we want, but we cannot do ANY FOOTBALL DRILLS. I think sometimes that if I ever did get a head coaching job in Ky, I would have a 2 hr. full pad/full contact practice in the morining from 9-11. Then give the 3 hr. mandatory break as required by the KHSAA that would be followed by an easy second practice in the afternoon. Mostly to consist of alignment, assingment, for both ofense and defense and some special teams, I would try to get the kids done for the day by 3:00. This is just me talking also, who am I? Just one coaches opinion.

Maybe one of these days Kentucky will quit trying to comparing itself to Ohio, it is a different state with a different agenda. There is also something else I have noticed about the schools that have PRIDE, LOYALTY, and TRADITION: That is they just wory about going 1-0 for that week. They don't concern themselves with games that do not or will not happen or play out scenarios in their head that ask would've, should've, could've. They never ask themselves what would happen IF. They just concern themselves with the opponent they are facing that week and worry about winning that game. The constant state champions do this every week. Then when this happens for 15 weeks, they win state championships. YES, IT IS THAT SIMPLE! PRIDE, LOYALTY, AND TRADITION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC OR PRIVATE!

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The communities I have just mentioned are schools who have great PRIDE, LOYALTY, and TRADITION, to not just their football programs, but to the school, they also have numerous state championships to prove it. Ohio is where pro football started, home of the NFL Hall of Fame. It is home to great Football Coaching legends such as Woody Hayes and Bo Schembecler (sp), storied programs like Ohio State and Miami Univeristy (the cradle of coaches), you have a high number of Ohio Natives in the NFL Football Hall of Fame. Kentucky really doesn't have that. Adolph Rupp is our dead legend and Rick Pitino is our living legend. I wonder how many people really do know that Paul "Bear" Bryant was the only coach in the history of UK to lead the Wildcats to an SEC title (1950 I believe) and snap Oklahoma's 34 game winning streak in a bowl game (forgot which one). Like I mentioned before! Good point Leatherneck

One last thing before I leve this thread alone, one team can have 80-100 players and the other one could have only 30. THE RULES OF FOOTBALL ONLY ALLOW YOU TO PUT 11 ON THE FIELD, AND MAY THE BEST 11 WIN. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, I WAS ON THAT TEAM WITH ONLY 30 AND WE WON QUITE A FEW GAMES IN HIGH SCHOOL BEACAUSE WE HAD THE BEST 11!

The point of the post was not to ask if Ohio was better than Kentucky, the point of the post is if every program had PRIDE, LOYALTY, and TRADITION, like Highlands, Cov Cath, Beechwood, New Cath, St. X, Trinity, Mayfield, Bowling Green, Paducah Tighlman, so on and so forth, PUBLIC VS. PRIVATE WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE! it would only be a matter of who has better players. Not coaching, or public vs. private. THIS IS WHY OHIO DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE. Ironton use to have an awesome website JUST FOR FOOTBALL (it got shut down after Coach Lutz resigned last year). Those people love football. Ironton is a little river town that takes a lot of pride in their football program. THEY LOVE FOOTBALL AND THE COMMUNITY IS WHAT DRIVES THE PROGRAM, NOT WHEATHER IT IS PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. My first true eye-opening experiance came in 1999 when I was a player at Thomas More and we had a bye week. I had a teammate who was an Elder grad and he invited me to go to the game with him, his parents were season ticket holders, yes season ticket holders. Talk about an experiance. It was a GCL game and talk about a "Full House" effect. That crowd was the twelfth man, as it states in "The Pit", the purple nation was at its best that night and I will never forget it.

I am now going into my sixth year of coaching. My first three years in NKY and the last two years and this coming season in Ohio. Since my freshman football season at Thomas More in 1998, it seems like we had more Ohio guys than anything, (all the coaches were from Ohio, except one) and all I kept hearing about was this great thing called "Ohio High School Football". I always knew that I was going to coach football and I always wanted to know what it was that made Ohio great. I read books, magazines, internet articles and heard coaches speak from Ohio hoping to find out just what made Ohio so great. In 2004, I accepted a coaching job at an Ohio private school. Although it was a much lesser football school by any standards, they still played in a very competitive league and it was Ohio. So I get to thinking to myself "Great, I am going to begin to see what it is that makes Ohio High School Football so great. I bet they got the answer to everything concerning football." I bet I took a million notes when I got home after practice everyday my first year. Thinking that all these notes would be the pieces to the puzzle to figure out what it is that makes it so special. As I came to realize now in my third year, I wasted a lot of paper. I am now in my third year at a second Ohio school, I have learned that a trap is a trap, a counter is a counter, a power is a power, a sweep is a sweep, and a zone is a zone. It is done in Ohio as it is in Kentucky, the coaches just use different lingo and put there own little tweaks in it. All are sound and all can be defeated. So when I realized that after my second year and coaching with Moeller grads, Princeton Grads, Elder grads, and so on, football is football. It is running, blocking, defeating blocks, tackling and taking care of the football. Last year when I was taking the Lineman for our pregame warm-ups for our first game and I look in the crowd and I see the place packed like a sardine can. I see all people of all ages and groups, wheather they had a relative on the team or not, supporting their community. So I think to myself "Well they have community pride, that's the answer". I don't think that is the answer either. Just look at Ft. Mitchell, Ft. Thomas, the school communities of New Cath and Cov Cath. All of these schools would fit right in with any community in Ohio. The communities I have just mentioned are schools who have great PRIDE, LOYALTY, and TRADITION, to not just their football programs, but to the school, they also have numerous state championships to prove it. Ohio is where pro football started, home of the NFL Hall of Fame. It is home to great Football Coaching legends such as Woody Hayes and Bo Schembecler (sp), storied programs like Ohio State and Miami Univeristy (the cradle of coaches), you have a high number of Ohio Natives in the NFL Football Hall of Fame. Kentucky really doesn't have that. Adolph Rupp is our dead legend and Rick Pitino is our living legend. I wonder how many people really do know that Paul "Bear" Bryant was the only coach in the history of UK to lead the Wildcats to an SEC title (1950 I believe) and snap Oklahoma's 34 game winning streak in a bowl game (forgot which one). Football is an expectation in Ohio, all the way from the town/school administration to the sideline managers. I was taken by this realization as a native Kentucky boy when I also found out the over 700 schools in Ohio play football, just over 200 in Kentucky. So regardless of Public or Private, the pattern that rest right now is PRIDE, LOYALTY, and TRADITION. Can you imagine what Newport and Holmes could be if the communities where to come together and support football. They would be amazing because the best athletes are in the halls of the schools and on the streets, not on the field. In conclusion, If Kentucky wants to kill the Public/Private debate, all they have to do is go to a Highlands, Cov Cath, New Cath, or Beechwood game. See how the community supports football. If every school ever reached their full potential for support of the football programs, Kentucky would be a dangerous state to compete against. KENTUCKY HAS THE TOOLS WITH GREAT COACHES AND PLAYERS! PUBLIC OR PRIVATE DOES NOT MATTER, IT IS ABOUT PRIDE, LOYALTY, AND TRADTION. If every school has that, then there wouldn't be a public or private debate, just the on going question: "Is Ohio better than Kentucky?", I'll leave that one up to you. :walk:

Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Bellevue's first scrimmage August 11th at their place? And if so, will the field be ready by then? :confused:

Football is constantly going through trends. The spread is the current one. When I played (mid 90's), every body ran the pro formation (1 TE, 2 RBs, 2 WR's). The wishbone, wing-t, pro, spread, will always be somewhere. Eventually a new offense (or fad would be a better term) will come along and this great innovation that we call the spread today will be outdated. Football is not a revolutionary, it's evolutionary. There is no magical offense or defense. Coaches simply line up in something that they beleive fits their players and constantly find better ways to do things to win. X's and O's do not win.........Players do!

Most people on here who have played or coached should know better than to go by what a team does in the passing leagues. I know there is a thread on here about how Indian Hill (OH) had "whipped up" on Highlands. But you put those two teams on the field on Friday night and I promise you the Birds will come out on top. These passing leagues are great for creating timing and also creating some false hopes. I wouldn't look too much into these pasing leagues for the simple fact that A winning football teams plays the best defense by defeating blocks and making tackles. A winning football team plays the best offense by blocking and taking care of the football. NONE OF THESE ARE DONE IN A PASSING SCRIMMAGE. When Pendleton Co. has their first game, then you start making your evaluation. Until then, just enjoy the passing leagues because THEY MEAN NOTHING

You could also throw Bowling Green, Paducah Tilghman, Mayfiled and Murray in their from the western side of the state in the mix also.

1994 was the last time Newport played a AAA distict schedule. That was the year that Newport went 0-10.

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Jim Hyder has been coaching at Newport (both football and baseball) since 1996.

2001, @ Hanover. What a hit it was! If you need video evidence, message me and I can meet up with you to let you view it.

It's official http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AE/20070525/SPT0402/705250322/

and if I am wrong, you can cancel my subscription with no refund!

Yes, he is.

SO..................................... Who could this Ohio coach POSSIBLY be?

Nick wasn't going anywhere:laugh: :laugh: Too bad you call that the "good Side" (just joking) But Mexitucky I agree with you, Hanover has awesome facilities and a very good program.

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