Amen to that m Xman. However, there are always a few in every crowd that miss the whole picture. This is not about winning and losing. Sure, the win is always nice but the true picture is what these boys have gained throuout their years as part of great football programs, and being taught how to win with grace and class, as well as lose with dignity and class. That is what these few posters seem to have missed in their upbringing. How sad for them.