Nathaniel Bryan

I think this is how 6-A D3-vs-D4 could shake out: Male-Jtown Manual-Eastern X-Ballard PRP-Trinity Ballard could go 6-2-1 (X-Trinity-Male), PRP could go 2-6-1 (Trinity-X-Male), Eastern could go 5-1-2 (Manual-Male-Trinity). Teams would see 10 McCracken in semis, but 3 Scott County in the final/championship. Eastern could have to go through five top-10 teams, including four of the top 5 (Manual in R1, Male in R2, Trinity in R3 and Scott County in R5/Championship). Even Trinity could go 9-6-1 in the first three rounds and the 10-3 in the semis/championship. That's five top-10 teams for Trinity, too, including 3 of the top 6 and 2 of the top 3 (can't play the other since Trinity IS the other).

Thanks (SERIOUSLY) for your additions. NB Anyhoo ... PASSING - Boyle County's Josiah Robbins was 13-of-15 passing for 268 yards and six touchdowns -- in just the first half -- in a 48-14 win against Collins. - Bryan Station senior quarterback Andre Davis was 17-of-25 passing for 298 yards and four touchdowns in a 54-14 win at Meade County. Davis also ran for two touchdowns. - Bullitt Central quartervack Cameron Dukes passed for 445 yards and two touchdowns (but also ran for 115 yards and a touchdown) in the loss to Spencer County. - Butler County's Rex Henderson was 13-of-17 passing for 249 yards and three touchdowns (all three to Brendon Shanklin, who had 113 receiving yards) in a 48-18 win against Grayon County. - Caldwell County's Shane Burns was 33-of-41 passing for 397 yards in a 51-20 win against Henderson County. - Hopkinsville quarterback Jalen Johnson passed for 358 yards and three touchdowns in a 42-28 loss to Christian County. - Lafayette's Walker Wood passed for 247 yards -- but also ran for 143 -- in a loss to Scott County. - In his first career start ever, Lexington Catholic junior Kirk Fagot was 23-for-31 (without an interception) for 282 yards and three touchdowns against Madison Central. - Male had three players throw for a touchdown in a 63-0 win against Seneca. - St. Xavier junior quarterback Desmond Ridder was 12-of-13 for 150 yards and three touchdowns in a 37-6 win against Highlands. RUSHING - Ashland Blazer's Quentin Baker ran for 266 yards and scored four touchdowns against Ironton. - Bowling Green's Jamale Carothers had two rushing touchdowns at least 40 yards long and also had a 96-yard receiving touchdown in a 32-7 win against Warren Central. Carothers finished with 251 yards of total offenser (106 rushing yards, 145 receiving yards). - Elizabethtown's Dalonza Cates and Berneil Cecil both ran for more than 100 yards in the first half alone in a 38-7 home win against Bardstown. - Lafayette's Mason Alstatt carried the ball 16 times for 183 yards and one touchdown in a loss to Scott County. - Newport Central Catholic's Jacob Smith (23 carries, 216 yards, three touchdowns) had a big night in a 47-7 win at Harrison County. - Paducah Tilghman senior Sayveon McEwen ran for 138 yards and three touchdowns in a win against Madisonville-North Hopkins. - Paintsville's Kash Daniel ran for 145 yards and three touchdowns in a 39-15 win against Williamsburg. He also passed for 208 yards and a touchdown. - Paris' James Clark carried the ball eight times for 151 yards and four touchdowns against Middlesboro. - Russellville's Johnny Drumgole carried the ball eight times for 214 yards and three touchdowns against Todd County Central. - Scott's Roberto London carried the ball 18 times for 177 yards and three touchdowns against Covington Holy Cross. - Scott County's Keith Guy (21 carries, 223 yards, four touchdowns) and Noah Hughes (27 carries, 172 yards, three touchdowns) combined to carry the ball 48 times for 395 yaards and seven touchdowns in a 65-46 win at Lafayette. - Todd County Central quarterback Naytrimus Harris carried the ball 19 times for 130 yards and rushing touchdowns in a loss to Russellville. DANDY DEFENSE - Ashland Blazer recorded with first shutout (41-0) of Ironton since 1975. - Bowling Green's Tre Fant recorded his fourth straight game with an interception during the win against Warren Central. - Male held Seneca to minus-11 yards (minus-six passing, negative-five rushing) in a 63-0 win. - Trinity held previously undefeated Pleasure Ridge Park to minus-15 yards and just one first down. DAS BOOT - Belfry's Austin Woolum was 5-of-7 on touchbacks during kickoffs, made all four extra points and connected on both field goals -- the longest being a 46-yarder. REMEMBER ME? - Taylor County junior halfback Justice "Juice" Harrison carried the ball 20 times for 100 yards and a touchdown in the Cardinals' 27-0 win at LaRue County. Harrison transferred from LaRue County. THAT'S A FIRST - Central Hardin's win over John Hardin was the Bruins' first against the Bulldogs at Bulldog Stadium. WINNING WHILE SHORTHANDED - Playing without senior fullback Xavier Arnette (MCL sprain), Central Hardin won at John Hardin. - With injured starter Legend Brumbaugh (broken collarbone) sidelined, Lexington Catholic beat Madison Central behind the passing of junior Kirk Fagot. - McCracken County beat Lift For Life Academy without Zyaire Hughes (seen on sideline with arm in a sling). - Playing without quarterback Ryder Litten and a few other starters, South Warren knocked off North Hardin. SCHOOL RECORDS & MILESTONES - Franklin-Simpson backup kicker Maddie Alexander made three extra points against Monroe County, becoming the first female in Franklin-Simpson history to score a point in football. - McLean County senior defensive lineman Jacob Rickard set a school single-game sacks record (five) against Hopkins County Central. - Paris running back James Clark tied the school's career rushing touchdowns record (54) against Middlesboro. - Simon Kenton's Dillon Powell reached 3,000 rushing yards for his career. - Spencer County ran for a school record 743 yards - two off the state record. KING OF HARDIN COUNTY - In the past two seasons, South Warren has beaten Central Hardin, Elizabethtown, John Hardin, North Hardin each by at least 20 points.

If Central Hardin pulls this one off, Bruins run the table the rest of the way (in the regular season). If Central Hardin loses to BG ... Bruins still run the table the rest of the way (in the regular season). This is the worst Meade team in a while (but we kind of knew it would be. Folks knew it would be a struggle. It has been). North Hardin needs a gut check. Collins is an intriguing game, but if the Bruins believe they finally deserve a seat at the big-boy table, they better beat the Titans -- handily. Woodford County has a good O-line, but that won't be enough to beat the Bruins. Win against BG would be huge for Bruins. Especially confidence wise. Lose and you've got three losses heading into your bye week (when you had none at this point last year and some believe this year's team would be BETTER than last year's team. Granted last year's regular-season schedule wasn't close to this year's). But with some key guys banged up, further injury/soreness might not be a good idea (even with the bye week next week). Meade rested guys late last year and it paid off.

I'm not from Boyle at all, but no Boyle in the top 25? Pretty good list otherwise.

Say a team is up 24-7 late in the fourth quarter and has its JV/freshmen in. If team doesn't score (turnover on downs, kneel, run out the clock, whatever), it will "win soundly" because it won by 14-17 points. If the team scores, makes or misses an extra point or goes for two and fails (now up 30-7 or 31-7), it will win going away" because it won between 18-24 points. If the team scores, goes for two and gets it (now up 32-7), it wins via "blowout." So using your standard, ONE POSSESSION in the final two minutes of an already determined outcome can alter the game to 1-of-3 scenarios: win soundly, win going away or blowout? I might be getting too technical, but not sure I agree. I'm pretty easy: Running clock is only DEFINITE blowout.

I thought Caverna pulled from Barren? Thing is, there are some Hardin County residents (Sonora/Upton) who attend Hart County. PRP has kids from West Point (northern Hardin County, past Fort Knox on 31-W/Dixie.

I love to show kickers some love (I played high school soccer, not that I was any good. I wasn't). So hard to find their stats, sometimes.

Trinity, because of strength of schedule. South Warren won't play Male (this season; have no clue if they have tried actually scheduling each other). Trinity could play Male twice. And beating a team in the playoffs overrules an early season loss to them -- especially when they're the No. 1 overall team in the state, whether by human poll (AP, BGPreps, whoever) or computers (MaxPreps, CalPreps, CJ's LIT or LHL's Cantrall). And those 5-A/6-A teams South Warren beat aren't looking so hot. Central Hardin's likely to finish with at least four losses (Bowling Green plus playoffs). North Hardin has ONE win and is a favorite in maybe ONE game (Meade County) the rest of the season. Maybe North Hardin beats Owensboro Catholic and Monroe. And John Hardin's only gonna be 7-3 (if it beats Christian) or 6-4 (if it loses to Christian) in the regular season. So John Hardin could finish with five losses, too. Trinity's played FOUR teams (Male, Brentwood, Ensworth, PRP) tougher than any ONE team South Warren or Boyle have even played. Considering Boyle barely beat Central Hardin (ranked below PRP), who's to say Boyle would be 4-0 or 3-1 against Male/Brentwood/Ensworth/PRP?

PASSING - Boyle County's Josiah Robbins was 13-of-15 passing for 268 yards and six touchdowns -- in just the first half -- in a 48-14 win against Collins. - Bryan Station senior quarterback Andre Davis was 17-of-25 passing for 298 yards and four touchdowns in a 54-14 win at Meade County. Davis also ran for two touchdowns. - Butler County's Rex Henderson was 13-of-17 passing for 249 yards and three touchdowns (all three to Brendon Shanklin, who had 113 receiving yards) in a 48-18 win against Grayon County. - Hopkinsville quarterback Jalen Johnson passed for 358 yards and three touchdowns in a 42-28 loss to Christian County. - Lafayette's Walker Wood passed for 247 yards -- but also ran for 143 -- in a loss to Scott County. - In his first career start ever, Lexington Catholic junior Kirk Fagot was 23-for-31 (without an interception) for 282 yards and three touchdowns against Madison Central. - Male had three players throw for a touchdown in a 63-0 win against Seneca. - St. Xavier junior quarterback Desmond Ridder was 12-of-13 for 150 yards and three touchdowns in a 37-6 win against Highlands. RUSHING - Bowling Green's Jamale Carothers had two rushing touchdowns at least 40 yards long and also had a 96-yard receiving touchdown in a 32-7 win against Warren Central. - Elizabethtown's Dalonza Cates and Berneil Cecil both ran for more than 100 yards in the first half alone in a 38-7 home win against Bardstown. - Lafayette's Mason Alstatt carried the ball 16 times for 183 yards and one touchdown in a loss to Scott County. - Newport Central Catholic's Jacob Smith (23 carries, 216 yards, three touchdowns) had a big night in a 47-7 win at Harrison County. - Paintsville's Kash Daniel ran for 145 yards and three touchdowns in a 39-15 win against Williamsburg. He also passed for 208 yards and a touchdown. - Paris' James Clark carried the ball eight times for 151 yards and four touchdowns against Middlesboro. - Russellville's Johnny Drumgole carried the ball eight times for 214 yards and three touchdowns against Todd County Central. - Scott's Roberto London carried the ball 18 times for 177 yards and three touchdowns against Covington Holy Cross. - Scott County's Keith Guy (21 carries, 223 yards, four touchdowns) and Noah Hughes (27 carries, 172 yards, three touchdowns) combined to carry the ball 48 times for 395 yaards and seven touchdowns in a 65-46 win at Lafayette. - Todd County Central quarterback Naytrimus Harris carried the ball 19 times for 130 yards and rushing touchdowns in a loss to Russellville. DANDY DEFENSE - Male held Seneca to minus-11 yards (minus-six passing, negative-five rushing) in a 63-0 win. REMEMBER ME? - Taylor County junior halfback Justice "Juice" Harrison carried the ball 20 times for 100 yards and a touchdown in the Cardinals' 27-0 win at LaRue County. Harrison transferred from LaRue County. THAT'S A FIRST Central Hardin's win over John Hardin was the Bruins' first against the Bulldogs at Bulldog Stadium. WINNING WHILE SHORTHANDED - Playing without senior fullback Xavier Arnette (MCL sprain), Central Hardin won at John Hardin. - With injured starter Legend Brumbaugh (broken collarbone) sidelined, Lexington Catholic beat Madison Central behind the passing of junior Kirk Fagot. - Playing without quarterback Ryder Litten and a few other starters, South Warren knocked off North Hardin. SCHOOL RECORDS - McLean County senior defensive lineman set a school single-game sacks record (five) against Hopkins County Central. - Paris running back James Clark tied the school's career rushing touchdowns record (54) against Middlesboro. KING OF HARDIN COUNTY - In the past two seasons, South Warren has beaten Central Hardin, Elizabethtown, John Hardin, North Hardin each by at least 20 points.

Although not in northern Kentucky, the 17th District has at least three D-I players. Elizabethtown's Hunter Sullivan has multiple offers, while Elizabethtown's Jack Wilson (Coastal Carolina) and Central Hardin's Justin Rouse (Coastal Carolina) have committed in the last two months. In the 18th District but still in the 5th Region, LaRue County's Cameron Dawson (three-sport standout, will be All-State in golf) and Jaxon Boley (younger brother of Elizabethtown girls' basketball star Erin Boley) are already drawing recruiting interest.

Throwing out 1,500 for 90 percent of the public schools (read: Not Trinity, Not X) in the state is a misnomer because you're lucky if you even get half of that. It doesn't matter how big (Louisville) Central is, that school is going to be mostly female in enrollment (unless a bunch of dudes/guys/boys decide they want to get into nursing). Hence the disparity in Central's track classification (3-A, the largest; but track uses TOTAL enrollment) and football classification (3-A, among the BOTTOM half of all football-playing schools since football uses BOYS only). As far as numbers: Eh. Enrollment doesn't mean all that much. If that was the case, Mayfield and Danville and Owensboro Catholic would struggle and Breckinridge County and Iroquois (outside the 2-3 year run) and Muhlenberg County and Ohio County would all have far more success than they've had. Up until the last five years or so, Central Hardin was a no-name in football, yet it has ALWAYS been among the state's largest schools since it opened in 1990 (25 years or so). So why did it take Central Hardin 20-plus years to establish itself, yet smaller John Hardin (always been SMALLER than Central Hardin, yet in same area) needed no more than three years to establish itself in football? How come North Hardin kills it in track (in the state's largest class), but struggles to remain consistently competitive in football? If enrollment is all that, how come North Bullitt and Bullitt Central have struggled to equal Bullitt East on the gridiron? Same area, same type of enrollment. Frankly, I don't care if Bullitt East's overall total enrollment is 1,312 or 1,382 or 1,465 or 1,599 ... NONE of those numbers mean anything. As far as Spencer County, yeah it is having a good year. But in plenty of years, Bullitt East would own Spencer County. But the number of bodies shouldn't and can't be the end-all, be-all when putting schools/programs head-to-head on the football field. Henderson County is one of the largest schools in the state, but was notorious for having small rosters year-in, year-out. Plus, dressing a kid and not playing him just to make your roster/sideline look better serves little purpose. There are several teams in the state that would go toe-to-toe and even overpower teams that have bigger rosters/enrollments. Happens every Friday night.

Bullitt East has an enrollment of 1,500? http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/kentucky/districts/bullitt-co/bullitt-east-high-school-8242 "9–12 Grades 1,382 Students" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullitt_East_High_School "Enrollment, 1,412 (2013–14)." Plus, I doubt the 700-plus girls in the school are playing. Big difference between 750 (AT BEST/MOST) and 1,500.

That there was ZERO guarantee at all that he would have gotten on track against South Warren even if healthy? Just because you put up yards on winless Bullitt East and defensively challenged Paducah Tilghman does NOT mean you can run on South Warren or Boyle County (17 carries, less than 60 yards). No back has gone off on South Warren yet this season and very few have done it since Brandon Smith took charge of the defense. And I'm not so sure South Warren's defense isn't BETTER than Boyle County's. That's why I brought the stat up. If he NEVER got on track against Boyle County (despite having 15-plus carries), what in the world makes you think he was going to gash South Warren (especially when South Warren had tape from the Boyle game, meaning SW could stack the box more than BC did because SW knows -- and BC didn't at the time -- that Central Hardin wasn't a factor passing)?

Boyle held Arnette to less than 60 yards despite Arnette carrying it 17 times ( yards per carry).

Very in-depth. Good work!

calpreps.com Male (62.1) Trinity (61.5) Simon Kenton (51.5) DuPont Manual (47.6) Bryan Station (46.5) Scott County (46.1) St. Xavier (42.2) PRP (38.4) McCracken County (37.9) Ryle (35.8) calpreps.com Boyle County (43.7) Central (33.6) Belfry (32.8) Paducah Tilghman (25.7) Elizabethtown (23.5) Lexington Catholic (22.1) Caldwell County (21.6) Russell (20.9) Bell County (19.8) Garrard County (15.7) That's the top 10 computer-rated teams AFTER/INCLUDING this weekend's performances. Male vs. Boyle? Male wins. Trinity vs. Central? Central barely beat X and CAL, but lost to Knox Central. Jackets aren't good enough to knock off both Big Green Monsters. SK vs. Belfry? SK runs wild. Manual vs. Paducah Tilghman? PT got beat AT HOME by the No. 13 team in 6-A (Central Hardin), so PT is not beating the No. 4 team. Bryan Station vs. Elizabethtown? E'town barely held on against the No. 22 team (which means it is in the BOTTOM half) in 6-A (North Hardin) and got gouged defensively in the second half. Bryan Station makes North Hardin look slow. Scott County vs. LexCath? LexCath lost to No. 10 Ryle at home. Not beating No. 6. St. Xavier vs. Caldwell County. St. Xavier all day. PRP vs. Russell Independent. PRP runs wild. McCracken County vs. Bell County? McCracken too athletic. Ryle vs. Garrard? Garrard lost to Shelby AT HOME and barely beat 1-3 Lincoln. Ain't beating Ryle. As far as classes, CalPreps says 6-A, 5-A, 4-A, 3-A, 2-A, 1-A. calpreps.com 3-A has the most balance and isn't top heavy. However, the bad 3-A teams ... are really bad (3-A District 7 is ranked 47th out of 48 when looking at ALL districts across the six classes). Like I said, E'town and Caldwell are both top-seven teams in 3-A, but BOTH struggled with the No. 22 team in 6-A.

Here's what I said on the prediction thread: http://bluegrasspreps.com/ky-football-high/elizabethtown-north-hardin-310110.html#post5626385 "I'm NOT saying E'town loses. E'town could very well win. If E'town does, it may run the table. I think there are two concerns on E'town's schedule: Adair and North Hardin. I just do NOT think it's clear, cut and dried that E'town wins going away. Remember, John Hardin -- who not many people would have put Elizabethtown equal with this season -- had to pull away from North. John Hardin has a much better offensive line than E'town does. John didn't just blast North right out of the gate. Also concerned about E'town's psyche. North Hardin is fuming and looking to make a name for itself. E'town might be riding too high after beating a North Oldham team which some people now feel was overrated anyway. North needs this win more than E'town does. If E'town loses to North, eh. It loses to a 6-A program. If North loses to back-to-back 3-A teams, then there's concern. Do I think E'town can win? Yes. Do I think it will be as easy as some think? No. And I also think E'town's defense finally bends, if not breaks. If E'town comes out and absolutely demolishes North Hardin, I'll come back and eat plenty of crow. I won't hide." Check out the bolded parts. I thought E'town could win (it did), I said it wouldn't be easy as some thought (blew a 21-point second-half lead and won on a special teams touchdown in the fourth quarter when North Hardin had the chance to take the lead -- or even win -- in the final 2 minutes, and I said E'town's defense finally bends (it did). I said I would eat plenty of crow if E'town "absolutely demolishes" North Hardin. That was a good, solid win in which Elizabethtown was in control for most of the game (but put it on cruise control too early) ... but that was NOT absolutely demolishing. You can put the crow in the fridge. Save it for later.

St. X beating BG was huge. Beating BG by the score it did even more so. CalPreps, which uses a similar formula, has X fourth. Male and T are both hurt in the Litkenhous because of their out-of-state wins (not included). So remove Male and T from the list of teams which could be ahead of X (Male has enough in-state wins, but trading its Indiana win for a win against a lesser KY opponent drops the Bulldogs). Looking at X's numbers, it is 2-0 with two 26-point (or more) wins against two top-3,000 teams in the country (no other KY team has that average). According to CalPreps, only X (beat BG) and SK (beat Bryan Station) have wins against another top-15 team in the rankings. But SK's strength of schedule is lower because of playing Conner. X: 26.5 winning margin against average opponent rating of 1976. SK: 32.3 winning margin against average opponent rating of 2747. Scott County: 29.3 winning margin against average opponent rating of 2947. As for DeSales, CalPreps has the Colts ninth (pretty close to Lit rating). Butler (beaten by a Meade team which might go just ,500 this year) and Fairdale (currently 0-3 and also lost to Bullitt Central) lower the strength of schedule, almost canceling out the good win against Ballard. Change Bullitt Central (ranked 60th) for John Hardin (ranked 44th and likely to climb for playing PRP) and the Colts climb a bit.

If PRP loses to John Hardin, does PRP stay in? Same for Central Hardin. Who are the "others receiving votes", "on the bubble", "outside looking in" type teams in 6-A, meaning the ones who are currently in the 11-15 type of range. If Central Hardin and PRP lose, sure they deserve to drop. But if some of the unranked teams lose to unranked teams or struggle, they don't deserve to move up.

It is complex. Many times I've seen a team with a good record get waxed by a team with a lesser record because they loaded up on cupcakes and were more concerned about saving gas money or decent gates (by playing area rivals) than getting embarrassed or learning from their mistakes by stepping out of their comfort zones and playing someone who might actually challenge them. That being said, if you historically struggle against mediocre teams, there isn't much to entice you to step up and play the big boys. Look at Central Hardin. Some -- not all, mind you -- fans of the Bruins would rather have last year, when the Bruins ran the table in the regular season, only to get thumped by battle-tested Meade in the rematch. Central Hardin already lost, so the repeat undefeated regular season is gone. And although I DON'T think it will happen, there is a concern Central Hardin loses its next three games -- granted those three games are against BG, South Warren and John Hardin (three times a lot of teams would go 0-3 against). Personally, I rather see the Bruins be battle tested and make a run in the playoffs than go 10-0 or 9-1 and flame out against a team they had already beaten. E'town is in the same boat, sort of. Beat North Hardin and Adair and the 10-0 season is almost a given based on the rest of the schedule. But how well will the schedule prepare them for Caldwell, Tilghman, Boyle, Louisville Central, etc.?

I agree there is a magic number, but: - It's hard to tell who it's definitely helping (maybe Owensboro, since it has beaten traditional names Catholic and Warren Central) - It's hard to tell who it's definitely hurting (maybe Daviess, since it historically isn't very good and it could have a lower starting magic number than say Owensboro, which has beaten Catholic just like Daviess) And who knows how CalPreps and MaxPreps magic number compare to Lit (state only) and Cantrall (state only). Their magic numbers would have to be different somehow, no? Is there some sort of factor that exists? Yes. Can you prove who it has been applied to and how much it changes compared to a similar team? That's much harder to decypher. And should Male and Trinity have a better magic number than say Elizabethtown (also 3-0)? Yes. They may all be 3-0, but there's no way Elizabethtown is equal to the other two.

Caldwell's roster is much bigger than E'town's. Caldwell has fewer too-way starters. Caldwell was playing at home after North had a long road trip. Caldwell has Dee Cain. I'm NOT saying E'town loses. E'town could very well win. If E'town does, it may run the table. I think there are two concerns on E'town's schedule: Adair and North Hardin. I just do NOT think it's clear, cut and dried that E'town wins going away. Remember, John Hardin -- who not many people would have put Elizabethtown equal with this season -- had to pull away from North. John Hardin has a much better offensive line than E'town does. John didn't just blast North right out of the gate. Also concerned about E'town's psyche. North Hardin is fuming and looking to make a name for itself. E'town might be riding too high after beating a North Oldham team which some people now feel was overrated anyway. North needs this win more than E'town does. If E'town loses to North, eh. It loses to a 6-A program. If North loses to back-to-back 3-A teams, then there's concern. Do I think E'town can win? Yes. Do I think it will be as easy as some think? No. And I also think E'town's defense finally bends, if not breaks. If E'town comes out and absolutely demolishes North Hardin, I'll come back and eat plenty of crow. I won't hide.

North Hardin is deeper, faster and stronger than every team Elizabethtown has faced. Elizabethtown has yet to see a passing team -- and that's what North Hardin is. North Hardin also runs a fast offense. With many E'town players (8 or 9 I think) starting both ways, North Hardin could simply wear down the smaller Panthers.

I took AP Calculus in high school. Got an A. Got a 4/5 on the AP test. Don't remember a darn thing. Also got As in geometry, physics, chemistry and algebra. You give me a problem to solve from one of those four subjects and I'll look at you like you just asked your dog to speak Latin.

Agreed, but to say Dudley didn't shake hands because of a late Campbellsville touchdown shows Dudley did NOT learn from his past. And it DOESN'T make it OK, rationale/reasoning or not. I do not care at all what the reason was. Period. Coaches who don't shake hands think they're coming out ahead or proving something. They don't. When ever has NOT shaking hands -- I'm talking just about head coaches, not players -- been the right or classy move? Maybe Dudley is getting so far up there in age/ego that he just doesn't care. But his latest antics -- plus the KHSAA breathing down his neck -- are doing him no favors, either.