January 5, 201214 yr I understand your concerns with Mormonism, but I am curious as to why you would use those beliefs to prevent you from supporting a candidate. Is it simply because you wouldn't support someone that has those beliefs or that you would expect those beliefs to show up in policies brought forth by that candidate?If he was a Scientologist I'd probably do the same. Some things are just too much for me to stomach. But, I always add the caveat that if we shared a lot of beliefs I could probably still get past it. For instance, if I found out Gary Johnson was a Mormon it would probably not ultimately change my support for him.
January 5, 201214 yr If Iowa's population is 2.8% black and 9% of welfare recipients there are black, doesn't he have a point about helping them by working to increase employment? It sure seems from those stats that the blacks in Iowa are being much harder hit by the economy. What am I missing?While I agree 100% with your statement, the problem is he did not say it like that. Had he it would have held more water.
January 5, 201214 yr Which makes it more puzzling why he would single out blacks when making his stance against welfare. If they are the hardest hit it's not puzzling. It seems like politicians tend to use the hardest hit populations as examples when discussing issues.
January 5, 201214 yr While I agree 100% with your statement, the problem is he did not say it like that. Had he it would have held more water. I agree, I'm glad I'm not a politician having to answer questions off the cuff like they do. I would think they spend more energy explaining their answers than they do thinking them up.
January 5, 201214 yr I agree, I'm glad I'm not a politician having to answer questions off the cuff like they do. I would think they spend more energy explaining their answers than they do thinking them up. How much brain power does it take to say 'blacks are the hardest hit'? Plus, you are speculating that is what he meant with his statement. The way the article reads is different from your interpretation of his words. Has his camp even issued a statement for clarification?
January 5, 201214 yr How much brain power does it take to say 'blacks are the hardest hit'? Plus, you are speculating that is what he meant with his statement. The way the article reads is different from your interpretation of his words. Has his camp even issued a statement for clarification? Politicians on the stump have little brainpower (see Obama's 57 states statement). They're usually punch drunk, or so it often appears. Everyone is speculating about what he meant with his statement. I am not at all surprised that the article reads different. I watched the video to form my opinions.
January 5, 201214 yr Politicians on the stump have little brainpower (see Obama's 57 states statement). They're usually punch drunk, or so it often appears. Everyone is speculating about what he meant with his statement. I am not at all surprised that the article reads different. I watched the video to form my opinions. :thumb: And again, I am not defending what he said. It was wrong and flat out stupid. But all these guys get caught up trying to bloviate with simple yes or no questions and end up sticking their foot in their mouths (a la "typical white person") whether they intend to or not.
January 5, 201214 yr Politicians on the stump have little brainpower (see Obama's 57 states statement). They're usually punch drunk, or so it often appears. Everyone is speculating about what he meant with his statement. I am not at all surprised that the article reads different. I watched the video to form my opinions. People tend to tell the truth when they are drunk.
January 5, 201214 yr :thumb: And again, I am not defending what he said. It was wrong and flat out stupid. But all these guys get caught up trying to bloviate with simple yes or no questions and end up sticking their foot in their mouths (a la "typical white person") whether they intend to or not. No doubt. My point is that they obviously feel the way they do they just shouldn't have said it. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama feels the way he does about 'typical white people'. He just shouldn't have said it. I feel the same about Santorum. I'm not believing he had 75's intentions when he made that statement.
January 5, 201214 yr Pretty soon they are going to start calling him Robamaney. ^ :lol: :lol: Robamaney :lol: I'll second that. :lol: I think I need to trademark that!
January 5, 201214 yr Just like all the other misstatements by politicians, people will read into this what they want to. I also think Romney is loving life.
January 5, 201214 yr If he was a Scientologist I'd probably do the same. Some things are just too much for me to stomach. But, I always add the caveat that if we shared a lot of beliefs I could probably still get past it. For instance, if I found out Gary Johnson was a Mormon it would probably not ultimately change my support for him. I'm still very intrigued by your stance. I could see this if you were, say, a Baptist or a Catholic. However, as an atheist, what is it about the Morman faith that makes it "out there" while another form of Christianity is okay?
January 5, 201214 yr FWIW, I am off the Romney bandwagon after his comments in Iowa about the Dream Act. The Dream Act is not a litmus test for me, but it is a big factor in my decision making. We'll agree to respectfully disagree on whether Romney's stance on the Dream Act is the correct one. I think it is. If an illegal wants to gain legal status (technically "permanent residency status"), he or she has to "pay" something to this country to gain legal status. I don't think that attending college is enough to wipe out the fact that they are here illegally. Serve the country by joining the military and faithfully serving: yes. But just going to college and getting a degree? No. I'm in favor of doing something on immigration reform to address those who have been living here illegally. But just getting a college degree is just not enough for me. Perhaps serving in the Peace Corps or Americorps or something else similar, but get a college degree? Not sure just how that equates to earning the privilege to become a legal. Edited January 5, 201214 yr by leatherneck
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