January 4, 201214 yr For what it's worth on the topic, I spoke with an older lady I work with who is a republican. She doesn't really like any of the candidates and suggested that she may sit this one out instead of voting for Romney. I think her and others like her will come around and end up voting for him but I thought that was an interesting perspective from someone who is always sending around anti-Obama emails.
January 4, 201214 yr For what it's worth on the topic, I spoke with an older lady I work with who is a republican. She doesn't really like any of the candidates and suggested that she may sit this one out instead of voting for Romney. I think her and others like her will come around and end up voting for him but I thought that was an interesting perspective from someone who is always sending around anti-Obama emails.I've never voted for a Democrat in a national election...but Romney could get me there.
January 4, 201214 yr Chris Christie would have crushed these people. Perhaps even Obama. I imagine Mitch Daniels would also. I wonder if those two are betting Obama wins and are looking at 2016? Thay may be another thread discussion.
January 4, 201214 yr I imagine Mitch Daniels would also. I wonder if those two are betting Obama wins and are looking at 2016? Thay may be another thread discussion.I think the best candidates stayed out for a reason.
January 4, 201214 yr I've never voted for a Democrat in a national election...but Romney could get me there. If you don't mind my asking, who did you vote for in recent national elections? (You don't have to answer that if you don't want to)
January 4, 201214 yr If Marco Rubio wants to be Mitt's Veep, my guess is the job is his. Christie would probably be first in line, but I'm thinking he's said too much about being loyal to his current job to take on Veep. Plus, I think he's holding out for 2016.
January 4, 201214 yr If you don't mind my asking, who did you vote for in recent national elections? (You don't have to answer that if you don't want to)Not at all. Here is who I have voted for in races for national office: 2002 US Rep District 2: Ron Lewis ® 2002 US Senate: Mitch McConnell ® 2004 POTUS: George W. Bush ® 2004 US Senate: Jim Bunning ® 2004 US Rep Special Election District 6: Alice Kerr ® 2004 US Rep District 6: Tom Buford ® I supported Gailey in both, but my family has a personal, albeit negative relationship with Ben Chandler so I wanted him GONE. 2006 US Rep District 6: Paul Ard (L) I would have voted for Mike Weaver (D) if I was registered in District 2 at the time. My father and he are friends and former business partners. 2008 POTUS: Bob Barr (L) 2008 US Senate: I may have lied...I might have voted for Lunsford or abstained on this one. Can't really remember. It's not looking like there was a 3rd party or indie option for me. I'm certain I was all aboard to "Ditch Mitch" however. 2008 US Rep District 3: Anne Northup ® 2010 US Senate: Rand Paul ® 2010 US Rep District 3: Ed Martin (L) I didn't realize until just now that I have voted in half the Kentucky congressional districts. I may need to work on getting the other half down. :lol:
January 4, 201214 yr Not at all. Here is who I have voted for in races for national office: 2002 US Rep District 2: Ron Lewis ® 2002 US Senate: Mitch McConnell ® 2004 POTUS: George W. Bush ® 2004 US Senate: Jim Bunning ® 2004 US Rep Special Election District 6: Alice Kerr ® 2004 US Rep District 6: Tom Buford ® I supported Gailey in both, but my family has a personal, albeit negative relationship with Ben Chandler so I wanted him GONE. 2006 US Rep District 6: Paul Ard (L) I would have voted for Mike Weaver (D) if I was registered in District 2 at the time. My father and he are friends and former business partners. 2008 POTUS: Bob Barr (L) 2008 US Senate: I may have lied...I might have voted for Lunsford or abstained on this one. Can't really remember. It's not looking like there was a 3rd party or indie option for me. I'm certain I was all aboard to "Ditch Mitch" however. 2008 US Rep District 3: Anne Northup ® 2010 US Senate: Rand Paul ® 2010 US Rep District 3: Ed Martin (L) I didn't realize until just now that I have voted in half the Kentucky congressional districts. I may need to work on getting the other half down. :lol: So you have voted for McConnell? I seemed to remember you have a disliking for him. Wonder if Barr will run again in 2012? What about Romney do you dislike? I'm not planning to vote for him either. Curious to hear your thoughts.
January 4, 201214 yr So you have voted for McConnell? I seemed to remember you have a disliking for him. Wonder if Barr will run again in 2012? What about Romney do you dislike? I'm not planning to vote for him either. Curious to hear your thoughts. Yep, at the age of 19. Wish I could have that one back. I've heard Gary Johnson will seek the Libertarian option. I like Johnson quite a bit. I haven't found anything to like. I see no libertarian ideals that appeal to me and the Mormon thing leaves me very uneasy.
January 5, 201214 yr If I'm interpreting your comments correctly, I think you are stating there is some irony in my comments involving mandates and principles. If so, I don't see it so help me out. For example, one of my principles is that I don't believe in any govt welfare. I do not believe that I should be forced by the govt to help out my fellow man. I don't believe the village should be forced to raise someone. If I decide on my own volition to help out my fellow man, I can do so through the church or charitable organizations. But I realize my view is not shared with the majority of Americans. Thus if a Presidential candidate shared my philosophy, it would not be rational for me to vote for him because he has zero chance of getting elected. So rather than be locked to that principle in my voting decision, I believe I should vote for the candidate that can get elected while at least espousing welfare reform. I thought I stated exactly the same point that you were making: voters and elected officials that become slaves to their principles and mandates lose the ability to compromise. And compromise and reason is exactly what is needed to move this country forward. We are not a country that is heavily and strongly conservative and we are not a country that is heavily and strongly liberal. Those camps pretty much balance each other out, with the large and growing middle camp moving back and forth when they see an elected official moving dramatically in one direction or the other. The folks in the middle don't support a strongly liberal agenda and they don't support a strongly conservative agenda. I think and believe that voters and elected officials need to smarten up and realize that no party; no elected official can effectively lead the country if it or they is beholded to the far left or the far right. I'm hoping that the conservative R voters that might lean more to a very conservative R candidate in the primary because that person is closer to the voters' principles understand what I'm saying and decide to vote for Romney. He will be much more appealable to the middle group I believe, thus giving the Rs a better chance of beating President Obama in the General. I'd simply rather have a moderate R in the White House than President Obama. I'm not opposed to President Obama because he's a D (the Good Lord knows that I've voted for many a D in my life). I'm opposed to him because I believe he has lost his ability to find compromise with the Rs in Congress and to effectively lead this country. Heck, if George Bush Jr could have ran for a third term, if the alternate was reasonably acceptable, I'd probably have voted for the alternative because I believe Bush had lost the support of a majority of Americans, rightly or wrongly so. The irony isn't specifically in your comments. The irony is that voters stick rigidly to one belief in their vote and will not compromise. Then they don't like it when we have a Congress that does nothing because they behave the same way - sticking rigidly to a principal/belief without the least bit of compromise.
January 5, 201214 yr Yep, at the age of 19. Wish I could have that one back. I've heard Gary Johnson will seek the Libertarian option. I like Johnson quite a bit. I haven't found anything to like. I see no libertarian ideals that appeal to me and the Mormon thing leaves me very uneasy. I'm going to have to read up on Johnson. Others I've talked to like him. What about the Mormon thing bothers you?
January 5, 201214 yr I'm going to have to read up on Johnson. Others I've talked to like him. What about the Mormon thing bothers you? I'd advise it. I'm thinking after (would've preferred before) this election Paul needs to step aside as the "Libertarian voice of the GOP". He isn't going to get elected and he needs to make way for a more electable candidate such as Johnson. It still saddens me that his campaign didn't pick up steam. Pick up a Book of Mormon.
January 5, 201214 yr I know quite a bit about Mormonism. Just wasn't sure if it was the religion all together or some specifics that concerned you. The whole Jesus & Satan being brothers thing was what always got me. :lol:
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