Every kid in Lexington is lazy? No kids in Scott County or Jessamine County or Garrard County or any of the surrounding counties are? While I will admit that some probably are lazy and there are more things to do now than 30 years ago, those same opportunities are available everywhere - not just Lexington.

 

And if that is the case, why are city baseball teams all so good?

 

With what I said above, I agree with you that the same opportunities in Lexington are also available in Northern Kentucky, Louisville, Bowling Green, Paducah, Ashland/Huntington, Owensboro, Henderson/Evansville and as we all know, those areas churn out some pretty dang good football.

Not to turn this thread, because I know these comments I'm about to make might get taken the wrong way, but in baseball, every kid gets to swing a bat, no matter what position they play. In basketball, every kid gets to shoot the ball in practice. I played all three through high school, and there weren't many times I didn't enjoy going to baseball or basketball practice. However, there were plenty of 90+ degree days where the football practice field was the last place I wanted to be, but I loved and wanted what I/we were working towards more than those other sports.

 

It's like in June, where basketball and baseball get to play umpteenmillion games (be them school or aau affiliated, it doesnt matter, they are still playing), it's hard to fight or not understand why a kid would rather go play a basketball game or baseball game instead of coming to lift and run for football when they don't "have to".

 

Completely understand. It is hard to compare baseball/basketball/football against each other. My point was more to address the "lazy" statement, which obviously is false if kids are playing baseball. It's just that they have chosen to play a sport different than football.

Coaching and lack of change in coaching. A previous poster said the coaching has changed too often but I would argue it changed in the wrong direction initially. Every school has size and speed. The right coach implements the right system, discipline, and gets boys interested in playing football. Junior High leagues help, coaching hinders. Henry Clay, Bryan Station, and Dunbar should be on the level of St. X.

Completely understand. It is hard to compare baseball/basketball/football against each other. My point was more to address the "lazy" statement, which obviously is false if kids are playing baseball. It's just that they have chosen to play a sport different than football.

 

I don't think they are all lazy, either, I agree. However, I also don't think you can compare baseball and football either in terms of the mental toughness you have to have in order to play. I mean, just think if you held legite, open tryouts for all boys in a school for baseball and basketball, you'd have 10:1 over the number of boys that would show up for those over football (again, in terms of pure "want to"). I went to school with a lot of kids that wanted to play basketball and baseball, but didn't bc they just flat out werent very good athleticially, yet they still would have loved to play for either or both of those sports. Ask themt to come out for football, though? Different story.

It is very hard to develope a consistant winning program in football no matter where you are if you are a public school. Football is the most expensive sport and it takes continues dedication of the school adminastration, and school board. Have you ever seen anyone run for the school board promising a better football program. Lexington will be up against it till they have defined feeder programs, commited school adminastration and school board that supports football. I dont know if the Lexington schools are down as much as other counties are running of and leaving them.

I don't think Lexington coaches demand the training and discipline that they should within their programs overall. You have to be willing to lose some numbers to establish discipline to take a public program to its highest level.

Football requires a lot of running and hitting and wearing 25 lbs of gear in the heat and cold

 

baseball, soccer, and basketball dont have both in the same sport.

 

Kids now days want it easy, they are lazy everywhere

Baseball is a different animal in Lexington. They have quality baseball programs from elementary on up. Normally the public schools field very strong baseball teams but those boys start their training early. Same for basketball. There are quite a few AAU programs in Lexington and I have only heard of one or two traveling football teams from the Lexington area. I have never heard of any great football programs at the middle school level in Lexington. It has to be the programs/coaching. The talent is there. I expect Bryan Station to be the best Lexington public school in a year or so after Craig Yeast has them all bought in. I don't know what can be done to get Lex kids out of the mind set of playing baseball and basketball year round and putting on pads. Seems to me if you want to play football you'd just go to either of the private schools.

Baseball is a different animal in Lexington. They have quality baseball programs from elementary on up. Normally the public schools field very strong baseball teams but those boys start their training early. Same for basketball. There are quite a few AAU programs in Lexington and I have only heard of one or two traveling football teams from the Lexington area. I have never heard of any great football programs at the middle school level in Lexington. It has to be the programs/coaching. The talent is there. I expect Bryan Station to be the best Lexington public school in a year or so after Craig Yeast has them all bought in. I don't know what can be done to get Lex kids out of the mind set of playing baseball and basketball year round and putting on pads. Seems to me if you want to play football you'd just go to either of the private schools.

 

People can't just up and go to a private school. Public schools are set up for one thing, free education. All extracurricular activities are a privilege. Public school football in Lexington has not been as good as it should for many years. They may have had minimal cases of success but some will argue that those teams still underachieved.

All are multi-purpose (soccer, football, lacrosse) and all are used for football. Lafayette was the last one and theirs was finished in October of last year.

 

Lafayette:

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Man, that's a lot nicer facility than the one I remember from 1983 when I was last in Generals country.

Not to turn this thread, because I know these comments I'm about to make might get taken the wrong way, but in baseball, every kid gets to swing a bat, no matter what position they play. In basketball, every kid gets to shoot the ball in practice. I played all three through high school, and there weren't many times I didn't enjoy going to baseball or basketball practice. However, there were plenty of 90+ degree days where the football practice field was the last place I wanted to be, but I loved and wanted what I/we were working towards more than those other sports.

 

It's like in June, where basketball and baseball get to play umpteenmillion games (be them school or aau affiliated, it doesnt matter, they are still playing), it's hard to fight or not understand why a kid would rather go play a basketball game or baseball game instead of coming to lift and run for football when they don't "have to".

 

Fair point. My son enjoyed baseball much more than football even though his football team won three state championships and their baseball team never placed better than 4th in a 4 team district.

Baseball is a different animal in Lexington. They have quality baseball programs from elementary on up. Normally the public schools field very strong baseball teams but those boys start their training early. Same for basketball. There are quite a few AAU programs in Lexington and I have only heard of one or two traveling football teams from the Lexington area. I have never heard of any great football programs at the middle school level in Lexington. It has to be the programs/coaching. The talent is there. I expect Bryan Station to be the best Lexington public school in a year or so after Craig Yeast has them all bought in. I don't know what can be done to get Lex kids out of the mind set of playing baseball and basketball year round and putting on pads. Seems to me if you want to play football you'd just go to either of the private schools.

Very much the case. They love their baseball and hoops in that town. Good football is merely a rumor.

Man, that's a lot nicer facility than the one I remember from 1983 when I was last in Generals country.

 

I have been to all the Lexington Football fields over the last year. They are all nicely done. The home stands at all the fields are large and high. No one stays away from the programs due to lack of nice playing facilities. But I do not know about the weight rooms.

 

Also, another sport is catching on in Lexington. Though its season is not in direct conflict with football it does frustrate the football coaches who may basically tell a kid - pick one or the other. That sport is lacrosse. Dunbar, Tates Creek and Lafayette all have solid lacrosse programs.

People can't just up and go to a private school. Public schools are set up for one thing, free education. All extracurricular activities are a privilege. Public school football in Lexington has not been as good as it should for many years. They may have had minimal cases of success but some will argue that those teams still underachieved.

 

That's very true but it's been a while(Eric Shelton maybe) that I have heard of any stud football players from a public school(Aaron Boyd, maybe 1 or 2 others). I know there are some good kids capable of shining on the gridiron at the public schools. If they really want to play football and win and shine seems like they would go to one of the private schools. I just think most kids at public schools care more about the other sports and not football.

That's very true but it's been a while(Eric Shelton maybe) that I have heard of any stud football players from a public school(Aaron Boyd, maybe 1 or 2 others). I know there are some good kids capable of shining on the gridiron at the public schools. If they really want to play football and win and shine seems like they would go to one of the private schools. I just think most kids at public schools care more about the other sports and not football.

You do realize not every family can afford the tuition at private schools right?