The NWO, yes i know, it is on our dollar bill.

 

:ohbrother: No. "Novus Ordo Seclorum" is what you are referring to and it means New Order of the Ages.

No atheist has taken away anyone's ability to say a prayer to keep anyone safe.

 

In private no, but a prayer for the crowd out loud, yes. That is what I disagree with, taking away something that had been there for years. I love tradition.

In private no, but a prayer for the crowd out loud, yes. That is what I disagree with, taking away something that had been there for years. I love tradition.

 

Slavery was around for years and we finally did away with it. AND the majority probably wanted it. Women couldn't vote, and we finally did away with it. Jim Crow laws were around for years and we finally did away with them.

In private no, but a prayer for the crowd out loud, yes. That is what I disagree with, taking away something that had been there for years. I love tradition.

 

What added benefit does saying a prayer in public over a loudspeaker provide, other than for show and attention?

Jesus says to pray, enuff said. He prayed, he also tells us NOT to pray just to be seen, thats a sin, "go into the closet to pray," but this is different, in a group setting when injuries could happen he wants us to pray OUTLOUD.

 

Its not gonna hurt anyone, won't take very long, and if an unbeliever had a son playing in the game...and he happens to get injured....

Jesus says to pray, enuff said. He prayed, he also tells us NOT to pray just to be seen, thats a sin, "go into the closet to pray," but this is different, in a group setting when injuries could happen he wants us to pray OUTLOUD.

 

I understand your belief but that seems like a stretch. Obviously there is nothing in the Bible about football games, but are there Biblical examples that might be loosely connected to this?

Jesus says to pray, enuff said. He prayed, he also tells us NOT to pray just to be seen, thats a sin, "go into the closet to pray," but this is different, in a group setting when injuries could happen he wants us to pray OUTLOUD.

 

Its not gonna hurt anyone, won't take very long, and if an unbeliever had a son playing in the game...and he happens to get injured....

 

If he's an unbeliever, he's not going to think or believe that a prayer would have accomplished anything.

 

Also, no where at all does the Bible say in a group setting Jesus wants us to pray outloud.

Praying is simply asking Jesus for his Blessing, he commands for us to ask "in His name" and on your point a good one about football games but think of all the things we now have/do they didn't when Jesus said this about prayer when he was teaching.

 

I can give you many verses where we are taught about prayer, if I was at an event where a prayer was said in Islam/Budda/Latin/ I would respectually stand and remove my Bama cap and be silent, as an un believer if I was one I would still respect the actions of others.

UK, Jesus prayed many times at the meals, and he prayed at the cross, Paul also states to pray without ceasing 1st Thessalonians, Psalms says Pray as long as you have breath in 116:2, Romans says always be prayerful, 12:12,.

 

What they could do before they pray at a game is take a vote and see what the majortity would want, and then do that, and give time for the non believers to leave "during the prayer" for protection of the kids.

 

If I was at an event and there were actions I was totally against this is what I'd want and I'd leave, and return when it was finished. Problem solved or Sol-ved Inspector Cloussou.

Is praying outloud going to make any more difference than praying in private? If I go to the game, sit in my seat and say a silent prayer, is that less of a prayer than it would be if I had a microphone and let everyone hear it? Does it have less impact?

Is praying outloud going to make any more difference than praying in private? If I go to the game, sit in my seat and say a silent prayer, is that less of a prayer than it would be if I had a microphone and let everyone hear it? Does it have less impact?

 

I completely agree with your thinking.

 

However, how would we ever know?

Like I said earlier here in Louisville they do not pray over the speaker, and a side note I see people walking/talking/laughing/hats on during the Athem, drives me nuts.

 

We have to give Jesus more credit, a prayer is a prayer, it comes from your heart, when a kid from Seneca back in 2006 broke his leg against Male, my kid gathered all the Male kids around him and he prayed for this kid and his team mates., his Mom and I cried. It comes from your heart through the understanding of the scriptures that Jesus has taught us.

What added benefit does saying a prayer in public over a loudspeaker provide, other than for show and attention?

 

So every preacher who does this is just for show and attention. I say that is a smack in the face of those who do it for the real reason. Some may do it for that, I hope not, but yes I am sure it happens.

UK, Jesus prayed many times at the meals, and he prayed at the cross, Paul also states to pray without ceasing 1st Thessalonians, Psalms says Pray as long as you have breath in 116:2, Romans says always be prayerful, 12:12,.

 

What they could do before they pray at a game is take a vote and see what the majortity would want, and then do that, and give time for the non believers to leave "during the prayer" for protection of the kids.

If I was at an event and there were actions I was totally against this is what I'd want and I'd leave, and return when it was finished. Problem solved or Sol-ved Inspector Cloussou.

 

Is the bolded how we should decide things? Majority rules? Good thing we didn't think that way back in the mid 1800s or slavery may have been around a lot longer.

So every preacher who does this is just for show and attention. I say that is a smack in the face of those who do it for the real reason. Some may do it for that, I hope not, but yes I am sure it happens.

 

Why can't it just be a moment of silence? Then whoever wants to pray can do so privately, and those who are opposed can reflect on the game or what they had for dinner or whatever else they'd like to think about. Why would that not be sufficient?