:thumb::clap: Thank you!

A little bit off topic, but not really.

 

I was at a Reds game a couple of months ago (I think it was a Sunday), Then all of a sudden over the PA they tell everyone to stand and remove your hats for the playing and singing of God Bless America. I did not stand, and the person I was with asked me why and I told them, they decided not to stand either. A couple of "rude" guys behind me had a few comments about it, and I told them "This is NOT the National Anthem! I really like the song, but by standing and removing your hat it is giving the song the same respect as the National Anthem, which cheapens the respect you give the National Anthem, and I will NOT cheapen that respect!" They did not say another word to me!

 

Thank God I wasnt raised that way. It bothers me not to take my hat off for that stuff. Give respect, earn respect. Just another person trying to smooth talk people into thinking they are right and then the corruption of society begins.

The person starting this thread thinks people with tattoos and piercings are "freaks". That should say it all.

 

I'm so glad I was raised to be tolerant of others.

 

It cracks me up reading these threads about how it's "robbing a Christian of their rights", when these so called "Christians" (I use that term very very lightly with some on here) are doing nothing but passing judgement on others for not believing the same beliefs as them. Please show me where God says we should be judging others. I thought that was his job?? :confused:

Not just tattoos, tattoos all over covering their whole body walking around with about 7 or 8 lip rings and huge buttons stuck in their ears. Yeah then that is what I think of them, if they think that of me for not looking like that, then fine.

 

God does pass judgement on others, some of you on here I am sure. I am sure God loves how most on here dont want prayer said in public, I am sure he is so glad you are not ashamed.

Why say it is ignorant, because my scripture proves me right,you say pray in private and not bring attention, I say I am not ashamed to pray in public.

 

The most ignorant stement I have seen is to ask HOW HAS CHRISTIAN RIGHTS BEEN ROBBED. Just go look on the news and see what is happening. Go to Bell Co adn see how those people feel, all but 2 that is. I guess the other hundreds didnt get robbed.

 

mountain ref, I understand you're concerned about Christian rights being robbed. Do you feel that other Muslim rights have been robbed by this? Buddahist rights? As a Catholic, I felt it was important enough to my faith to educate my children in my faith, therefore I chose Catholic schools, where I know that prayer will be a part of the culture, including sports. In fact, one of my favorite parts of the Trinity/X game each year are the moments prior to the game when the priest is leading the prayer and close to 30K people are silent for those moments. For me, it's a moving experience. But I would never expect it at a Male/Manual game, even if I were a parent, because I have understood since I started learning history in school, that public entities cannot lead prayer or require prayer.

The person starting this thread thinks people with tattoos and piercings are "freaks". That should say it all.

Little does he know. I'll take that as a compliment:

 

mountain ref, I understand you're concerned about Christian rights being robbed. Do you feel that other Muslim rights have been robbed by this? Buddahist rights? As a Catholic, I felt it was important enough to my faith to educate my children in my faith, therefore I chose Catholic schools, where I know that prayer will be a part of the culture, including sports. In fact, one of my favorite parts of the Trinity/X game each year are the moments prior to the game when the priest is leading the prayer and close to 30K people are silent for those moments. For me, it's a moving experience. But I would never expect it at a Male/Manual game, even if I were a parent, because I have understood since I started learning history in school, that public entities cannot lead prayer or require prayer.

 

Their rights don't matter. Only his and those who share his beliefs.

 

Great post. 100% in agreement. :thumb:

Not just tattoos, tattoos all over covering their whole body walking around with about 7 or 8 lip rings and huge buttons stuck in their ears. Yeah then that is what I think of them, if they think that of me for not looking like that, then fine.

 

God does pass judgement on others, some of you on here I am sure. I am sure God loves how most on here dont want prayer said in public, I am sure he is so glad you are not ashamed.

Who said you can't say a prayer in public? Please tell me. You have been asked this several times in these threads yet you never answer. Why is that? Could it be because it isn't true?

Who said you can't say a prayer in public? Please tell me. You have been asked this several times in these threads yet you never answer. Why is that? Could it be because it isn't true?

 

The preacher at Bell Co couldnt get a microphone and say a public prayer

mountain ref, I understand you're concerned about Christian rights being robbed. Do you feel that other Muslim rights have been robbed by this? Buddahist rights? As a Catholic, I felt it was important enough to my faith to educate my children in my faith, therefore I chose Catholic schools, where I know that prayer will be a part of the culture, including sports. In fact, one of my favorite parts of the Trinity/X game each year are the moments prior to the game when the priest is leading the prayer and close to 30K people are silent for those moments. For me, it's a moving experience. But I would never expect it at a Male/Manual game, even if I were a parent, because I have understood since I started learning history in school, that public entities cannot lead prayer or require prayer.

 

yes, most religions are discriminated agaisnt. good for you to send your kids there, both schools are top notch in everything they do.

Their rights don't matter. Only his and those who share his beliefs.

 

Great post. 100% in agreement. :thumb:

 

Why should an atheist rights matter more than mine. Very wrong in your statement about what you say I think, I do believe other have rights, and not just those like me.

The preacher at Bell Co couldnt get a microphone and say a public prayer

 

Sure he could've. Just not as part of the school sanctioned football game "festivities". If he were in the stands, he could have used a microphone and started saying a prayer.

The preacher at Bell Co couldnt get a microphone and say a public prayer

 

At best, one person's right to pray was potentially robbed. However, if someone had started praying out loud in the stands and others followed, there would have been nothing to discuss here. He actually could have gone to the stands, stood there and led people in prayer. He was denied the opportunity to do it via microphone, and making the prayer a public-sanctioned activity. But he was not denied to pray in public at all.

Why should an atheist rights matter more than mine. Very wrong in your statement about what you say I think, I do believe other have rights, and not just those like me.

 

I'm confused....you ask why an athiest's rights should matter more than yours. Do you believe your rights as a Christian should matter more than those of an athiest? This is exactly what the ammendment in question seeks to prevent...that anyone's rights supercede another's based upon their religious beliefs (or lack thereof).

The preacher at Bell Co couldnt get a microphone and say a public prayer

So this preacher needs a micorphone to say a prayer?

Those who are giving the business (Eddie Haskell) to Mountain Ref, he is just frustrated as some of us are with the way our nation has changed. When we cannot say a prayer asking Jesus to protect our kids playing a sport where there are so many injuries well its sad. The prayer is not asking to save souls, asking for money, asking people to come to church, asking to believe in Jesus, its asking for protection for all the players and the people involved.

 

Back in 50s/60s/70s this was never even brought up, in fact if they didn't say a prayer there would be a back lash.

 

Sorry, duplicate response. I was a little late to the game.

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