January 26, 201115 yr Sorry, yes it is; read the statement on Bengals.com coming from Carson Palmer's agent. Cason's agent "had to tell Mortenson" says whom????? It could have come any of a number of sources....ones that weren't completely accurate as well... "Someone said" that Carson's wife wants to be on the West Coast????? You need to do better than that... You do know that Bengals.com is owned by the Bengals right? Thanks for playing though. I'll lay it out for you on a site where Mike Brown doesn't pay the employees. Palmer asked for a trade. Mikey said no. CP and his agent or someone that was allowed to "leak" the info called Mort. Connecting these dots isn't very hard. His agent played this brilliantly too. It's been a major story since Sunday and the Conference championship games were played and the talk should be Super Bowl yet every football segment I heard on espn radio the last two days addressed Palmer.
January 26, 201115 yr Not professional at all. Besides, he already said he will retire. I don't care how well he says he is financially. He won't walk away from $50 million.
January 26, 201115 yr I don't care how well he says he is financially. He won't walk away from $50 million. I actually think if anyone in the world would it's him. It's not like if he retires he can never earn another penny the rest of his life. If he gets traded, and that will be difficult even if Brown agreed, my guess is the new team would reach a new deal and the contract would be for less. The threat may be enough too. If there is no new deal he won't even miss OTA's. If the deal is reached and he skips the OTA's he has all the leverage. His agent is a big deal and they had to think this through before leaking the info.
January 26, 201115 yr I don't care how well he says he is financially. He won't walk away from $50 million. I'd bet 50 Mil he doesn't see all of that 50 Mil. :lol:
January 27, 201115 yr Ignorant fans that have only supported him all along. Not our fault he sucks now and people turned on him. That is what happens when you go 4-12. I was trying to figure out the ignorant fan statement myself.:confused: Yeah ignorant fan was not the right word for him to use. However, Its interesting that people would think he might be that missing piece to some teams who are only a QB away. Yet fans around here think he sucks and is the problem and that getting a new QB would be the best thing for this team. I believe getting rid of him would put us in the same position as the teams who want him, and that is teams that are in real need of a QB. We would then just become one of those teams too, and we would have an owner with a terrible record at finding even decent QB's.
January 27, 201115 yr This jives with what I've been told. Those within the Bengals have told me Palmer approaches it like you or I approach our jobs. He shows up, does what he has to do to collect his paycheck, and leaves. They said they don't get the feeling Palmer really even likes football. He views it solely as his job, and once he's accumulated enough money, he's out. I don't think I can believe that. I mean if that is true, and if he is set financially. Then why even worry about getting traded, just go ahead and retire and don't worry about trying to get traded. He might not like playing here in Cincy, but I doubt it's because he does not like playing.
January 27, 201115 yr Ignorant fans that have only supported him all along. Not our fault he sucks now and people turned on him. That is what happens when you go 4-12. I rest my case; anyone that tries to blame ONE PLAYER for the failings of a 4-12 team doesn't fully get it...
January 27, 201115 yr You do know that Bengals.com is owned by the Bengals right? Thanks for playing though. I'll lay it out for you on a site where Mike Brown doesn't pay the employees. Palmer asked for a trade. Mikey said no. CP and his agent or someone that was allowed to "leak" the info called Mort. Connecting these dots isn't very hard. His agent played this brilliantly too. It's been a major story since Sunday and the Conference championship games were played and the talk should be Super Bowl yet every football segment I heard on espn radio the last two days addressed Palmer. THE STATEMENT WAS FROM CARSON PALMER AND HIS AGENT!!!!!!!! It happened to be posted on bengals.com. OBVIOUSLY, his agent is the ONLY person who could have leaked the story(are you serious?); I'll go with facts corroborated, not the speculation of a fan
January 27, 201115 yr I actually think if anyone in the world would it's him. It's not like if he retires he can never earn another penny the rest of his life. If he gets traded, and that will be difficult even if Brown agreed, my guess is the new team would reach a new deal and the contract would be for less. The threat may be enough too. If there is no new deal he won't even miss OTA's. If the deal is reached and he skips the OTA's he has all the leverage. His agent is a big deal and they had to think this through before leaking the info. Palmer won't skip OTA's.
January 27, 201115 yr Yeah ignorant fan was not the right word for him to use. However, Its interesting that people would think he might be that missing piece to some teams who are only a QB away. Yet fans around here think he sucks and is the problem and that getting a new QB would be the best thing for this team. I believe getting rid of him would put us in the same position as the teams who want him, and that is teams that are in real need of a QB. We would then just become one of those teams too, and we would have an owner with a terrible record at finding even decent QB's. No, "ignorant" was chosen very carefully; lack of knowledge definitely applies to anyone that tries to blame one player in the game of football that takes a cohesive group of 11 to succeed is demonstrating a complete lack of knowledge about the game of football; anyone that fails to recognize the failings of the Bengal O-line, the fear of Ocho and TO across the middle, the mistakes of the rookies Shipley and Gresham, the subpar performance of the defense, and the failings of Special Teams is not aware of what happened this season; of course Carson had bad plays too and is culpable as well, but to simply say "Carson sucks" is overgeneralizing and oversimplifying the problems of the '10 Bengals. Give Carson the Patriot, Colt, or Jet o-line and he would be a different player; part of his problem is he was shell-shocked; look at how Brady flinched after just one half of moderate pressure by the Jets and a few sacks; now multiply that by 8-10-12 games; it is a wonder Palmer didn't end up on the IR; (please don't cite sack numbers; there is so much more to pressure than just sacks- hits, hurries, knockdowns also count BIG TIME to a QB in the pocket).
January 27, 201115 yr I rest my case; anyone that tries to blame ONE PLAYER for the failings of a 4-12 team doesn't fully get it... So I'm an idiot because Palmer stunk this year? Sounds like you fully get it.
January 27, 201115 yr THE STATEMENT WAS FROM CARSON PALMER AND HIS AGENT!!!!!!!! It happened to be posted on bengals.com. OBVIOUSLY, his agent is the ONLY person who could have leaked the story(are you serious?); I'll go with facts corroborated, not the speculation of a fan I'm glad you used a lot of caps. I wouldn't have been able to see what you were saying if you didn't. You go with a rehearsed press release for the story if you want. I highly doubt Mortensen made up the possible retirement. As close to the vest as Carson plays everything I believe that his camp is the "leak" to espn.
January 27, 201115 yr I rest my case; anyone that tries to blame ONE PLAYER for the failings of a 4-12 team doesn't fully get it... I don't recall anyone put sole blame on CP. But when you're the franchise, #1 draft pick, face of the organiztion, umpteen million dollar QB, and you did not perform up to those standards, you are 1st in line when judgement is being made. Like it or not a QBs career is judged on wins and losses. And Carson's record in not quite stellar. Not totally his fault, I think we all agree to that, but he is the man on this team.
January 27, 201115 yr Let's also remember that Carson has had a hand in shaping his team. TO came here in large part because Palmer pushed for it. Reggie Kelly, a non pass catching TE, is on this roster because Palmer loves him. Then everyone complains about not having a TE who can catch a pass. Well, when Palmer begs for the TE who doesn't catch passes to be signed. Brat gets grief over play calling yet Palmer probably changes 10 plays a game at the line. Who knows ... maybe he should have stuck with the play Brat called? Why did Palmer become a statue in the pocket who never scrambles or tries to run for a few yards? Early in his career, he ran enough to keep teams honest. The point is, although the QB is one of 53 on an NFL roster, a QB like Palmer has tremendous impact on the team so he needs to shoulder the blame much more than any other player. Palmer is part of the problem here and he needs to get much better if he wants to win a playoff game.
January 27, 201115 yr I'm glad you used a lot of caps. I wouldn't have been able to see what you were saying if you didn't. You go with a rehearsed press release for the story if you want. I highly doubt Mortensen made up the possible retirement. As close to the vest as Carson plays everything I believe that his camp is the "leak" to espn. Yesterday Mortensen made up the story about Lebeau not coming back to the Steelers next season, which Lebeau promptly dismissed last night...
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