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The Finals Have Proven We Can't Have 6 Classes

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There where some bad games this year but no way 6 teams in finals draws more than 12. If you want to increase attendance play in an indoor facility and serve alcohol.

 

Now there's an idea....$5 beers. I am a little surprised the Catholic schools do not serve beer at their games. I have seen beer served at both soccer and softball games which shocked (and excited) me. Nothing like watching a pee wee league game with a pitcher.

 

I do believe the attendance would be up overall if you consolidated venues and had 2 games played on a Saturday afternoon and night (4 and 7). Overall, the matchups would be better and you would have games everyone would have interest in. I know there have been games between St. X and T that drew 20.000 plus. It wouldn't shock me a Highlands and T/X game could draw that many in a playoff atmosphere. Just the finals alone, attendance may not be up (though I think in some years it would), but overall attendance during the playoffs.

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Something that gets a little lost in all of this.

 

Number of career state titles won by the 2010 state champs:

 

Mayfield - 8

Newport Cath - 4

Central - 3

Boyle County - 7

Highlands - 20

Trinity - 20

 

TOTAL - 62

 

Number of career state titles won by the 2010 runner-ups:

 

Hazard - 0

Owensboro Catholic - 0

Belfry - 2

Allen County-Scottsville - 0

Christian County - 2

Male - 6

 

TOTAL - 10

 

 

There's something to be said for playing tradition-rich programs in the state finals, especially when many of the players haven't been there before (except Hazard and Christian County)

The very thought is repulsive.

 

One of the ways to really get my wife's goat is to remind her that although she grew up in Greenup (then Mason) County, she was born in Portsmouth, Ohio.

 

Talk about starting life's journey with an 0-2 count.:D

Here's some scores to pass along

 

42-7

41-6

56-14

28-7

56-28

60-12

 

Those were the scores from Tennessee High School state championship games played over the weekend.

 

47-14

48-7

24-7

48-19

 

The above scores come to us from the Illinois championship weekend

 

Blowouts happen at the state championship level

Yeah, and the SEC has proven they can't have a championship game because Auburn blew out S.C.

Something that gets a little lost in all of this.

 

Number of career state titles won by the 2010 state champs:

 

Mayfield - 8

Newport Cath - 4

Central - 3

Boyle County - 7

Highlands - 20

Trinity - 20

 

TOTAL - 62

 

Number of career state titles won by the 2010 runner-ups:

 

Hazard - 0

Owensboro Catholic - 0

Belfry - 2

Allen County-Scottsville - 0

Christian County - 2

Male - 6

 

TOTAL - 10

 

 

There's something to be said for playing tradition-rich programs in the state finals, especially when many of the players haven't been there before (except Hazard and Christian County)

 

The SRs at HHS and Trinity have basically 2 extra years HS game experience than the other teams. (4 yrs of 15 games...60 games vs. 40). You can't discount the benefit of extra practice time and games for successful programs. It's similar to the college bowl system benefits. It helps perpetuate the success.

Move to Ohio and it won't.

 

As far as I am concerned, it doesn't in Kentucky to places that make noise year in and year out.

Here's some scores to pass along

 

42-7

41-6

56-14

28-7

56-28

60-12

 

Those were the scores from Tennessee High School state championship games played over the weekend.

 

47-14

48-7

24-7

48-19

 

The above scores come to us from the Illinois championship weekend

 

Blowouts happen at the state championship level

 

More scores to pass along:

Michigan finals scores.

 

20-17

24-21

 

They have only 2 classes, which looks to have made for much better competition.

More scores to pass along:

Michigan finals scores.

 

20-17

24-21

 

They have only 2 classes, which looks to have made for much better competition.

 

Scores were closer but 8 divisions. Maybe we need to add 2 classes instead of drop 2.

To finish football finals prior to December, in no way puts either sport in the front or rear seat. When the season starts in August, four months is enough time to determine the champ. December weather is too dicey. jmo

The SRs at HHS and Trinity have basically 2 extra years HS game experience than the other teams. (4 yrs of 15 games...60 games vs. 40). You can't discount the benefit of extra practice time and games for successful programs. It's similar to the college bowl system benefits. It helps perpetuate the success.

 

A little factoid that often gets overlooked.:thumb:

Scores were closer but 8 divisions. Maybe we need to add 2 classes instead of drop 2.

 

Why not? Another idea would be to have each district be it own class and the winner of the class be declared the state champion for that distrct/class.

Based on the numbers below, 6 class finals have been more competitive than 4 class finals. From Ryan Ernst of the Enquirer this morning:

 

In the decade before the KHSAA went from four to six classes (1997-2006), the average margin of victory was 20 points. In the first three seasons under the six-class system, that number actually dropped to 18. The 2008 season featured one of the best state-championship weekends in state history – six games, four decided by 10 points or less.

 

http://nky.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20101206/SPT0302/312060084/

Based on the numbers below, 6 class finals have been more competitive than 4 class finals. From Ryan Ernst of the Enquirer this morning:

 

In the decade before the KHSAA went from four to six classes (1997-2006), the average margin of victory was 20 points. In the first three seasons under the six-class system, that number actually dropped to 18. The 2008 season featured one of the best state-championship weekends in state history – six games, four decided by 10 points or less.

 

http://nky.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20101206/SPT0302/312060084/

 

But with this year the number jumps to 22.75 for the 4 years of 6 classes.

 

I did the previous 4 years to 2007 for the old class system (vs. 10) and came up with 18.75 under the old 4A system.

 

Just for fun I took out the 4A number under the 6 class system since other than the first year it has been ultra-competitive (spreads of 7, 3 and 2 the last 3 years) and the 6 class system jumps to 24.6.

 

2008 was good mostly. 2010 was the opposite.

 

A quick look at what happened when classes went from 3 to 4 also indicated that the more classes, the higher the spreads in the finals - 'on average'!

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