BTW - I've committed a faux pas by lumping all Boone parents together.

Right. A CCH guy who has issues with Boone. You've nailed me. Don't tell Cooper that I have issues with them either. Or Beechwood. Or Tates Creek.

 

"Within their group" - that's exactly where the problems always start.

 

CCH????? So you are not even part of the program at Boone, that explains it all. The CURRENT group is the ENTIRE basketball family including coaches and no one is excluded, and we ALL enjoy each other regardless of your "proof" which means nothing because it doesn't affect the teams success ! Nothing more here!

CCH????? So you are not even part of the program at Boone,

 

Are you new to BGP?

Sounds like the football system at Boone doesnt work for you LFTG but the hoops system does?

From Ryan Ernst blog:

 

NKBBCA PRESEASON TOP 10 PLAYERS

 

1.) Jake Giesler – Newport Central Catholic

2.) Tyler Hodges – Conner

3.) Kellen Smith – Scott

4.) Bobby Stauffer – Ryle

5.) Jake Thelen – Covington Catholic

6.) Travis Montgomery – Boone

7.) Matt Trammell - Dixie Heights

8.) Donnie Cheatum - Lloyd Memorial

9.) Jack Stewart - Highlands

10.) Cody Chambers - Simon Kenton

 

Thoughts?

 

Just to get this back on track

 

1. Kellen Smith Scott...HS BB is a guards game and he most well rounded guard with great intangibles & already committed at the D2 level

2. Jake Giesler NCC....Best big man in N Ky scores, defends and rebounds.

3. Jake Thelen CovCath....Great scorer and good rebounder. Needs to be a little better defensively.

4. Bobby Stauffer Ryle....Great intensity with solid skills. Working on perimeter game should help at the college level

5. Jack Stewart Highlands....Most improved player I saw over the summer. Will be big time player for Birds this season and close gap on Giesler, Thelen & Stauffer

6. Brandon Hatton Dixie....scoring ability overshadows overall game. Will need to defend better but he is a big time player

7. Travis Montgomery Boone Co...best athlete on the list but production needs to catch up to potential. Good all around skills

8. Matt Trammell Dixie....Might be rated higher if he played last year. If his quickness is back he is a force giving Dixie outstanding backcourt

9. Tyler Hodges Conner...makes list because of potential. Production needs to start to match potential.

10.Trevan Brown Boone Co....Physical post player who does well defending bigger players. Could average double/double this year

 

11. Tyler Fangman Beechwood...so close to top 10. Great shooter, underrated athletically. Should put up big numbers for Beechwood

12. Cody Chambers SK....Good all around guard who will be top 5 player his senior season in 2012

13. Jake Burger Holy Cross Good Scorer who came on strong last season. Good athlete who will put up good numbers this season

14. Chris Hayes....Explosive guard who should have an opportunity in Boohers system to make plays

15. Jake Flesch Conner.....Multi skilled guard who will need to produce for Conner to keep that preseason #1 ranking

 

Just outside the top 15....

 

Cameron Haynes Scott....Great shooter who gives Scott 2nd best backcourt in the area behind Dixie

Nick Gray SK......Needs carryover from good summer. Good shooter who plays hard all the time

Nate McGovney...Campbell County...Well rounded player who will need to have a big year for Camels to overtake Scott in district

Zeke Pike Dixie......Could be a top 15 player easily but has put an awful lot of focus into football and hard to argue with that

D'Vontae Bradley Cooper....above average defender and very physical player. Not great skills but big time motor

KeVon Rice...Holmes....Great ability but production needs to catch up to potential

 

I don't know enough about Dontel Rice of Holmes to include as I didn't see him mich this summer and do not recall him from last years Holmes team. While this years group of seniors might not have the marquee D1 player of years past there is good depth and should produce some solid D2 players and a host of D3 players at the college level. Could still have a Montgomery or Hodges end up at the D1 level based on potential with their size and athletic ability. Doesn't make them better players at this point and time but there are certain things you just can't teach.

 

Just trying to get thread back on track and sure I probably missed a few kids along the way!

It's about time. I forgot what post we were in. Thanks for the synopsis.

Looks like Cheatum disappeared.....^^^

Looks like Cheatum disappeared.....^^^

 

I hve seen him 4-5 times on the high school level and never have been that impressed. Did not see him at any of the bigger AAU events so I really have nothing to judge him on from that level. Ratings are always subjective and he is probably one of the players I might have missed on......

 

Where would you have him rated? Who does he best compare to?

Sounds like the football system at Boone doesnt work for you LFTG but the hoops system does?

I don't think the Boone football system is working for anyone related to that program right now except for maybe the head coach. IMO the basketball system is fine.

I hve seen him 4-5 times on the high school level and never have been that impressed. Did not see him at any of the bigger AAU events so I really have nothing to judge him on from that level. Ratings are always subjective and he is probably one of the players I might have missed on......

 

Where would you have him rated? Who does he best compare to?

 

It's hard to say. I haven't seen him play since last year. Very athletic, good shot blocker, rebounder, can put the ball in the hoop...I would tend to have him in the 11-15 range. I think his supporting cast, perhaps had something to do with people's perception of him. I honestly think he'll have a big year this upcoming season.

Coach, you had the opportunity to see Dontel Rice a lot over the summer.

 

Do you think he is a legit top 10 player in the region?

 

I did see Dontel quite a bit this summer in both game and practice situations. He is definitely one of the top athletes in the region. He is so smooth and can hurt you in many different ways and is very difficult to defend. I heard several college coaches at the big certified events this summer talking about his athletic ability during a game. With that said, the only downside to his game is his intensity/urgency. It's almost like he gets bored on the court sometimes. In his defense, he probably does get bored because he knows he can score on anyone if he wants to. I would like to see Dontel take over more games like I saw a few times this summer and increase his urgency on the defensive end. Once he does that you will probably see his name on the top ten list.

Just to get this back on track

 

1. Kellen Smith Scott...HS BB is a guards game and he most well rounded guard with great intangibles & already committed at the D2 level

2. Jake Giesler NCC....Best big man in N Ky scores, defends and rebounds.

3. Jake Thelen CovCath....Great scorer and good rebounder. Needs to be a little better defensively.

4. Bobby Stauffer Ryle....Great intensity with solid skills. Working on perimeter game should help at the college level

5. Jack Stewart Highlands....Most improved player I saw over the summer. Will be big time player for Birds this season and close gap on Giesler, Thelen & Stauffer

6. Brandon Hatton Dixie....scoring ability overshadows overall game. Will need to defend better but he is a big time player

7. Travis Montgomery Boone Co...best athlete on the list but production needs to catch up to potential. Good all around skills

8. Matt Trammell Dixie....Might be rated higher if he played last year. If his quickness is back he is a force giving Dixie outstanding backcourt

9. Tyler Hodges Conner...makes list because of potential. Production needs to start to match potential.

10.Trevan Brown Boone Co....Physical post player who does well defending bigger players. Could average double/double this year

 

11. Tyler Fangman Beechwood...so close to top 10. Great shooter, underrated athletically. Should put up big numbers for Beechwood

12. Cody Chambers SK....Good all around guard who will be top 5 player his senior season in 2012

13. Jake Burger Holy Cross Good Scorer who came on strong last season. Good athlete who will put up good numbers this season

14. Chris Hayes....Explosive guard who should have an opportunity in Boohers system to make plays

15. Jake Flesch Conner.....Multi skilled guard who will need to produce for Conner to keep that preseason #1 ranking

 

Just outside the top 15....

 

Cameron Haynes Scott....Great shooter who gives Scott 2nd best backcourt in the area behind Dixie

Nick Gray SK......Needs carryover from good summer. Good shooter who plays hard all the time

Nate McGovney...Campbell County...Well rounded player who will need to have a big year for Camels to overtake Scott in district

Zeke Pike Dixie......Could be a top 15 player easily but has put an awful lot of focus into football and hard to argue with that

D'Vontae Bradley Cooper....above average defender and very physical player. Not great skills but big time motor

KeVon Rice...Holmes....Great ability but production needs to catch up to potential

 

I don't know enough about Dontel Rice of Holmes to include as I didn't see him mich this summer and do not recall him from last years Holmes team. While this years group of seniors might not have the marquee D1 player of years past there is good depth and should produce some solid D2 players and a host of D3 players at the college level. Could still have a Montgomery or Hodges end up at the D1 level based on potential with their size and athletic ability. Doesn't make them better players at this point and time but there are certain things you just can't teach.

 

Just trying to get thread back on track and sure I probably missed a few kids along the way!

 

Great post and excellent analysis.

Its unreal how some Boone parents and followers can't realize how great of a Coach they have in Coach McQueary. The problem isn't the system or the coach....its the kids and the parents.

Boone's system works great. Just look at McQueary's recent success on the court. He has done a great job with the players he was been dealt. I believe Gabbard and McFarland are both playing college ball. He has also coached some other good athletes; Cotton (baseball), Brown (football). IMO, he has done a great job with his program. He runs a very disciplined system that demands player's respect and attention to detail. I know he has had to fight lots of outside pressure since he took over and has succeeded in spite of all the outside distractions. Kudos to Coach McQueary.

Its unreal how some Boone parents and followers can't realize how great of a Coach they have in Coach McQueary. The problem isn't the system or the coach....its the kids and the parents.

 

You are dead on NKYBOY. The kids and the parents at Boone need to realize ONE concept. There is NO "I" in team. Good luck to Coach McQueary and the Rebels this season.

i doubt Hatton could hold his own in one-one games with these two 6'6 guys. When Hatton can drop 35 on Fern Creek while having a 6'9 kid guarding him then I might rank him above Stewart.

 

I love Hatton's game and have watched him for many years. i think he could be the next Scotty Draud of NKY Basketball but he is still just a freshman and will need to show he can play defense with the big boys if he wants to truly move up the player rankings. He is clearly the best shooter in NKY hands down.

 

That is a bold statement that I think many would disagree with.