...smart football?

 

I've often seen comments to the effect that "Team A's coach won't run up the score on Team B/allow a blowout", etc. Often because of connections with Team B or the coach of Team B.

 

In the case of a terrible mismatch, is this a sound philosophy? Or does it make more sense to try to get to a running clock as quicky as possible - if possible - thereby shortening the game, reducing the opportunity for injury, etc.

 

Just wondering what BGP Nation thought.

I have no problem with getting it to a running clock within reason. Within reason is most definitely sometime in the third quarter, and preferably in the first half of the third quarter. Beyond that, the benefits of it are reduced, and you'd be avoiding the opportunity for injury more if you got your second team in there. And as nice as it is to shorten the game, I think your JV squad would benefit in competing against a first team squad (as it often is when you first pull the starters), and it gives them the added boost of getting to play on Friday night in front of a crowd.

 

So there are definitely merits to getting the running clock, but I do believe it is often a mask for the true intentions of running up the score. I believe some coaches simply want it to be a statement to other teams.

It should often be viewed as a statement of what you were able to accomplish during a football game. But if a running clock is achieved throwing the football with a 40 point lead, i believe it is distasteful and poor sportsmanlike. You will have some who argue that they have to work on their passing game. To me, this is not a valid argument. You don't work on your onside kicks with a large lead, do you?? How about a fake punt?? :idunno:

 

Most times running clocks occur with the one defense making some type of play while the trailing team is acting desperate and/or defeated. You can also add a score or two by the two's. Injuries are a part of football and if you are foolish enough to leave the first team in during a blowout, late in the game, then you are susceptible to injuries. BTW, I am aware Boyle faked a punt on Highlands with a large lead in the state finals years ago...

When the rule was first put in place the losing coach had to agree to the running clock. Does anyone know if this is still the case? By the way I am fully in favor of the running clock for the reasons prevously posted.

When the rule was first put in place the losing coach had to agree to the running clock. Does anyone know if this is still the case? By the way I am fully in favor of the running clock for the reasons prevously posted.

 

Are you about that? I was thinking that prior to the rule adoption coaches could recommend a running clock. I'm pretty sure that now when it hits 45 points, its running clock for the rest of the night, even if the score dips below 45 points.

You will probably never see a running clock in Monroe County because our coaches do not believe in running the score up or a shut out. They like to keep the boys honest and give the younger guys as much playing time as possible for depth purposes. We dress 70+ in a 2a school and a lot of these kids play during a weak opponent night. We play Adair this week and the starters will not be in after half. If they are in that long!!!!! I agree with all the above posters, a running clock with different coaches is often a statement more than a talent show.

Edited August 31, 201016 yr by tsyoung7
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When the rule was first put in place the losing coach had to agree to the running clock. Does anyone know if this is still the case? By the way I am fully in favor of the running clock for the reasons prevously posted.

 

The coaches have to agree to a running clock in the first half. If the 45 point lead is there in the second half they have no option.

Most coaches I know will score until the clock is running, then back off. It seems until they reach the 45 point lead everything is fair game.

It should often be viewed as a statement of what you were able to accomplish during a football game. But if a running clock is achieved throwing the football with a 40 point lead, i believe it is distasteful and poor sportsmanlike. You will have some who argue that they have to work on their passing game. To me, this is not a valid argument. You don't work on your onside kicks with a large lead, do you?? How about a fake punt?? :idunno:

 

Most times running clocks occur with the one defense making some type of play while the trailing team is acting desperate and/or defeated. You can also add a score or two by the two's. Injuries are a part of football and if you are foolish enough to leave the first team in during a blowout, late in the game, then you are susceptible to injuries. BTW, I am aware Boyle faked a punt on Highlands with a large lead in the state finals years ago...

 

oh yeah..... Many remember that "stunt". Too bad the "rivalry" didn't last long. Paybacks would have been sweet.

The coaches have to agree to a running clock in the first half. If the 45 point lead is there in the second half they have no option.

 

That sounds right to me Ram. I probably never realized at the time, it was the first half of my nephews games.

...smart football?

 

I've often seen comments to the effect that "Team A's coach won't run up the score on Team B/allow a blowout", etc. Often because of connections with Team B or the coach of Team B.

 

In the case of a terrible mismatch, is this a sound philosophy? Or does it make more sense to try to get to a running clock as quicky as possible - if possible - thereby shortening the game, reducing the opportunity for injury, etc.

 

Just wondering what BGP Nation thought.

 

If I was a head coach, I'd try to build a lead with my starters in the 35-40 point lead range and then insert my subs to finish out the game. The "problem" with a running clock is that it goes by so fast and the subs don't gain much game experience. The best way to be good next year is to give next year's starters game experience this year.

Edited August 31, 201016 yr by leatherneck

It should often be viewed as a statement of what you were able to accomplish during a football game. But if a running clock is achieved throwing the football with a 40 point lead, i believe it is distasteful and poor sportsmanlike. You will have some who argue that they have to work on their passing game. To me, this is not a valid argument. You don't work on your onside kicks with a large lead, do you?? How about a fake punt?? :idunno:

 

Most times running clocks occur with the one defense making some type of play while the trailing team is acting desperate and/or defeated. You can also add a score or two by the two's. Injuries are a part of football and if you are foolish enough to leave the first team in during a blowout, late in the game, then you are susceptible to injuries. BTW, I am aware Boyle faked a punt on Highlands with a large lead in the state finals years ago...

 

The Boyle fake punt against Highlands didn't bother me one bit. We should have defended it. Plus for the Highlands players returning, it taught them a valuable lesson and provided great motivation for the following year. Good things can come out of bad things if you just look at the situation from a proper perspective.

The Boyle fake punt against Highlands didn't bother me one bit. We should have defended it. Plus for the Highlands players returning, it taught them a valuable lesson and provided great motivation for the following year. Good things can come out of bad things if you just look at the situation from a proper perspective.

 

Great post.

The coaches have to agree to a running clock in the first half. If the 45 point lead is there in the second half they have no option.

 

Ram - you sure about that? It was my understanding that the Rule was changed this year - and that once the 45 point differential was reached (regardless of which period) the running clock would begin. Did not think it involved a Coache's approval. You might want to check with your ref friends.

Most coaches I know will score until the clock is running, then back off. It seems until they reach the 45 point lead everything is fair game.

 

I believe the running clock rule has changed this year. Now the running clock starts at 45 points even in the first half. Any time the lead hits 45, the running clock starts.