July 28, 201016 yr Elite? C'mon you have to be kidding. When I think of Elite QBs I think of future Hall of Famers. You obviously don't remember 2005 much. He was being compared to a young John Elway by all the gurus. If that doesn't constitute elite, then nothing does. Drew Brees isn't elite to you? Good to know.
July 28, 201016 yr You obviously don't remember 2005 much. He was being compared to a young John Elway by all the gurus. If that doesn't constitute elite, then nothing does. Drew Brees isn't elite to you? Good to know. Drew Brees is a future Hall of Famer man. 1st ballot signed and sealed. Not really seeing how he compares to Palmer. And one season makes Palmer elite? Let's go ahead and enshrine Tommy Maddox and Jon Kitna in the Hall of Fame.
July 28, 201016 yr Drew Brees is a future Hall of Famer man. 1st ballot signed and sealed. Not really seeing how he compares to Palmer. And one season makes Palmer elite? Let's go ahead and enshrine Tommy Maddox and Jon Kitna in the Hall of Fame. Brees does not have Hall of Fame numbers, especially not 1st ballot.
July 28, 201016 yr He's an average season away from breaking into the top 20 for career passing TD's, he'll almost certainly end up in the top 10-12 passers yardage-wise of all-time, he's 9th al-time in passer rating, he's got a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP, 3 times he's been the Offensive player of the year, 4 time Pro Bowler, 3 time All-Pro. Naw, not a Hall of Famer and certainly not capable of comparing to the Gold Standard of QBs Carson Palmer.
July 28, 201016 yr He's an average season away from breaking into the top 20 for career passing TD's, he'll almost certainly end up in the top 10-12 passers yardage-wise of all-time, he's 9th al-time in passer rating, he's got a Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP, 3 times he's been the Offensive player of the year, 4 time Pro Bowler, 3 time All-Pro. Naw, not a Hall of Famer and certainly not capable of comparing to the Gold Standard of QBs Carson Palmer. Ok, seriously, stop trying to put idiotic words in my mouth. Once again, where did I say once that Palmer was on the same level as Brees? I didn't, but that doesn't appear likely to stop you from claiming I did...
July 28, 201016 yr Ok, seriously, stop trying to put idiotic words in my mouth. Once again, where did I say once that Palmer was on the same level as Brees? I didn't, but that doesn't appear likely to stop you from claiming I did... UKMF, you've seen enough of my post to know I'm always going to go as extreme as I can. :thumb: I'm always going to be sarcastic and immature.
July 28, 201016 yr UKMF, you've seen enough of my post to know I'm always going to go as extreme as I can. :thumb: I'm always going to be sarcastic and immature. :lol: Yeah, I'm not sure I like someone else stealing my posting style...
July 28, 201016 yr :lol: Yeah, I'm not sure I like someone else stealing my posting style... Easy, plagarism isn't my style man. :thumb: Anyway, I think Palmer is overrated, you don't. I see no reason to continue to the discussion, we are both set in our views of him.
July 28, 201016 yr This doesn't make sense. What does his age have to do with anything? Last year his production of over 50 receptions, 800 yards, and 6 TDs would have made a world of difference on this offense. If he can replicate those numbers, with a huge upgrade at QB, it'll improve the passing game ten-fold. Really what does age have to do with anything? Are you serious. I tell you what. Name me every productive 37 year old in the NFL and don't include kickers. I help you start a list with Brett Favre.
July 28, 201016 yr Really what does age have to do with anything? Are you serious. I tell you what. Name me every productive 37 year old in the NFL and don't include kickers. I help you start a list with Brett Favre. Like I said, who cares how old he is? You would rather have what the Bengals had last year, than a guy who brings in over 50 catches, 800 yards, and 6 TDs, just because the guy is older? Like was asked before, you'd rather have Caldwell?
July 28, 201016 yr Like I said, who cares how old he is? You would rather have what the Bengals had last year, than a guy who brings in over 50 catches, 800 yards, and 6 TDs, just because the guy is older? Like was asked before, you'd rather have Caldwell? My point is his negatives far outweigh his negatives. This is not the pro bowl Owens but he doesn't realize it nor does Johnson.
July 28, 201016 yr My point is his negatives far outweigh his negatives. This is not the pro bowl Owens but he doesn't realize it nor does Johnson. But if (-1) x (-2) = 2 then I am not sure how the negatives don't balance out in this case.
July 28, 201016 yr My point is his negatives far outweigh his negatives. This is not the pro bowl Owens but he doesn't realize it nor does Johnson. Once again, would you rather have what they had last year opposite Chad or what Owens brings to the table? What negatives? He's always been a perfect teammate his first season with a team. Him and Chad are great friends, so they'll be able to co-exist, and Carson was the main guy on the bring TO aboard bandwagon, so he's on board with it.
July 28, 201016 yr TO averaged 15 yards per reception last year. If he gives the Bengals 55 catches for over 800 yards and 6 scores they will be better offensively than last year. You would think TO really does want to win. It's a one year deal and very worth the risk.
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