GT, any word on whether Kansas State comes as a package deal?

 

I can't see Kansas and K State splitting up if staying together is an option...

I can't see Kansas and K State splitting up if staying together is an option...

 

So are you saying Manhattan, Kansas could be going to Manhattan, NYC?

So are you saying Manhattan, Kansas could be going to Manhattan, NYC?

 

Too early to know for sure, but things are moving in that direction so far...

Chip Brown says the report is false, and I'm siding with him since he has been on the money every step of the way so far...

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According to Chip Brown it seems that A&M to the SEC is still a possibility.

 

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093010

Just don't see Texas and Texas A&M splitting.

 

I think the Big 12 should be going after some schools to try and save their own league.

 

I would be calling UC, UL, Utah, Boise St., TCU.

 

I know they are not the top but all 5 have been to a BCS game the last 5 years. They also have won 4 BCS games.

They would own the state of Florida...Also, USF has the potential IMO to be a football juggernaunt if they can offer what the SEC allows them too. I could see VT instead of Clemson, but still think they'd go for Clemson instead.

 

Think about this two-division setup:

 

North

Kentucky

Tennessee

Vanderbilt

Arkansas

Alabama

Auburn

Clemson

South Carolina

 

South

Mississippi

Mississippi State

LSU

Georgia

Florida

Florida State

South Florida

Miami (FL)

 

Doesn't UF pretty much own Florida right now anyway? I could see FSU/Miami adding some more power to the SEC, but USF? I don't see what USF or Clemson bring to the table. They don't bring strong programs or additional media markets. Why would the SEC want them?

Chip Brown says the report is false, and I'm siding with him since he has been on the money every step of the way so far...

 

I actually hope it is. Texas and Texas A&M are too far of stretch geographically IMO. Of course so is Nebraska, but that seems to be a done deal.

Doesn't UF pretty much own Florida right now anyway? I could see FSU/Miami adding some more power to the SEC, but USF? I don't see what USF or Clemson bring to the table. They don't bring strong programs or additional media markets. Why would the SEC want them?

 

UF doesn't own Florida. When they refused to play the U on an annual (or even every other year or every four year) basis that ended any thoughts of them owning the state. I will give Meyer some credit though, he said on the radio this week that Miami and FSU are natural fits, but gutless AD Foley will try his hardest to keep Miami from the SEC. If it's about TV, I think Miami would be a good fit because they have a national fan base.

UF doesn't own Florida. When they refused to play the U on an annual (or even every other year or every four year) basis that ended any thoughts of them owning the state. I will give Meyer some credit though, he said on the radio this week that Miami and FSU are natural fits, but gutless AD Foley will try his hardest to keep Miami from the SEC. If it's about TV, I think Miami would be a good fit because they have a national fan base.

 

I have to disagree Cats with your high view of Miami's program right now. They have struggled to compete and win the ACC. For that matter so has FSU. Meanwhile Florida has competed at the hightest level in the SEC and Nationally. Maybe owning the state is a little strong but I don't see anything that USF, or for that matter Miami brings to the current SEC. Just my take.

I have to disagree Cats with your high view of Miami's program right now. They have struggled to compete and win the ACC. For that matter so has FSU. Meanwhile Florida has competed at the hightest level in the SEC and Nationally. Maybe owning the state is a little strong but I don't see anything that USF, or for that matter Miami brings to the current SEC. Just my take.

 

I didn't say a word about Miami being good, but you cannot say that a team owns a state when they won't play the biggest traditional power in the state. UF is the best program in the state right now, but to own a state you can't be afraid of playing any and everyone in the state.

 

How can they OWN the state when they won't even take Miami up on an offer to play once every 4 years? And they would probably have won 4 out of the last 5 or maybe all of the last 5, they are just sad and pathetic and use the excuse that they want an extra home game so they can schedule some directional team that has no business playing an SEC team.

And Miami doesn't bring as much as Clemson, possibly the most underachieving program of All-time? 5 national championship don't add anything? Sure they are not what they used to be, but unless Texas or Oklahoma come in, no other team that could be added has anywhere near as much prestige as Miami.

Now ESPN is reporting that Boise State just left the WAC and joined the Mountain West....

Now ESPN is reporting that Boise State just left the WAC and joined the Mountain West....

 

That was bound to happen. The MWC had held off on inviting Boise earlier in the week just in case Colorado didn't get the Pac-10 invite. The MWC seemed to be making themselves available for Colorado, Kansas, and Kansas State, just in case. Since the Buffs made the move to the Pac-10 that meant there was room for Boise after all.

And Miami doesn't bring as much as Clemson, possibly the most underachieving program of All-time? 5 national championship don't add anything? Sure they are not what they used to be, but unless Texas or Oklahoma come in, no other team that could be added has anywhere near as much prestige as Miami.

 

CCC, I know you know its more than just on-field success. Clemson sells out the stadium every time and has a large alumni base across the south, meaning more people interested in watching on TV. Miami sells out one or two games per year (maybe) and has a limited alumni outside of south Florida. It is fair to say that Clemson has traditionally underachieved while Miami's emergence in the 1980's was impressive, but nobody would expect a conference to pick the Canes over Clemson. It's not the smart move financially - which is the only thing that matters.