I don't think the number of points a boy scores should be a big factor in determing Mr Basketball. Some boys put up 40 shots a game while some may average 10-15 shots . The schedule and quality of talent they play against should also be a factor.[/QUOTE]

 

I agree on both points. Also I have heard that Behanan is going to a prep school. Guess we will have to wait and see. I have read through the whole thread and there are some very valid points made for each player mentioned. Do any of you feel that AAU this summer and how some players do will have any effect?

 

AAU should have no effect as most of what goes on in the summer is only talked about in detail here. A good summer of AAU should help a players recruiting profile but should not have an effect on this award.

As far as Behanan, I would think you would have to play Kentucky high school basketball more than he has to qualify! Are two years really enough to get an award that highlights a high school career? Like I said before it's Knipp's to lose, would expect him to dominate the mountain votes and maybe even split with the Clark duo in central Kentucky.

As far as Behanan, I would think you would have to play Kentucky high school basketball more than he has to qualify! Are two years really enough to get an award that highlights a high school career? Like I said before it's Knipp's to lose, would expect him to dominate the mountain votes and maybe even split with the Clark duo in central Kentucky.

 

I wasn't aware it was a lifetime achievement award. Two years seems ample to me, I'd say the majority of HS starters are either Jrs or Srs, so most only start two seasons.

As far as Behanan, I would think you would have to play Kentucky high school basketball more than he has to qualify! Are two years really enough to get an award that highlights a high school career? Like I said before it's Knipp's to lose, would expect him to dominate the mountain votes and maybe even split with the Clark duo in central Kentucky.

 

Mr. Basketball is a season award...not career award.

 

Sounds like Knipp having a little competition is making you a little nervous?

It is not a season award it's a career award and that's why I see this being a two-horse race between Knipp and Stenzel for they are the only two who have had a career. Mr. Basketball award winners don't just play two years they play 4-5 as both of the players named have. Stenzel started his legend in 2007 at the foul stripe in a regional final and Knipp started as an eight grader on great teams.

It is not a season award it's a career award and that's why I see this being a two-horse race between Knipp and Stenzel for they are the only two who have had a career. Mr. Basketball award winners don't just play two years they play 4-5 as both of the players named have. Stenzel started his legend in 2007 at the foul stripe in a regional final and Knipp started as an eight grader on great teams.

 

You couldn't be more wrong about this one. Mr. Basketball goes to the senior who had the best all around season...not career.

 

See Stephon Pettigrew and Jon Hood as prime examples of this being a season award and not career. If it were a career award, Josh Sewell also wouldn't have been considered the top candidate until the state tournament this year.

If that's the case Walter was does it go to only a senior? That criteria would leave any and all to believe it's a culmination of a career award. I think your mixing Kentucky up with other states that award their Mr. Basketball to the best player of the year not reserving it for only seniors.

You couldn't be more wrong about this one. Mr. Basketball goes to the senior who had the best all around season...not career.

 

See Stephon Pettigrew and Jon Hood as prime examples of this being a season award and not career. If it were a career award, Josh Sewell also wouldn't have been considered the top candidate until the state tournament this year.

 

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If was given as a career accomplishment Ricardo Johnson (Holmes HS) would have been granted the award this year...

I think the votes are cast according to the voters interpretation of the award. Some might vote for the career person while others might vote strictly on senior season.

Chris Lofton is a perfect example of a kid that won it during his junior year. After he won the state championship and was MVP there was no questions that he would win it. Ricardo also won a championship but he wasn't as dominate as Lofton. He had more competition on his own team as others could give arguments tos Pittman being the best player on that team. About Hood there was no way he should of won it, and the only reason he did was because he was going to Kentucky. Walt Allen is another perfect example of a kid that won it during his junior year. If it was just a one season award then it wouldn't only go to seniors. But the award is just for seniors, and you know the voters just do not look at that one season.

"vote is in the eye of the beholder"

Here are a few things I've seen over the years.

 

High school coaches do the voting.

 

High school coaches do not like AAU.

What a kid does outside of High School ball does not matter to the high school coaches.

 

If a senior is going to UK, it's pretty much a lock.

 

If a strong candidate is from Eastern KY, they have a very good chance at getting the majority of the votes from the Eastern KY coaches. They tend to stick together and take care of their own.

 

Not all coaches vote. Some only do if they have a favorite or someone they specifically want to win it.

 

The schedule the candidates high school team plays has nothing to do with the voting.

 

Scoring the most points does not constitute a lock for the award.

 

If two or more candidates are on one high school team, neither one will win.

 

So...What determines who wins?:idunno::idunno::idunno::idunno::idunno:

If that's the case Walter was does it go to only a senior? That criteria would leave any and all to believe it's a culmination of a career award. I think your mixing Kentucky up with other states that award their Mr. Basketball to the best player of the year not reserving it for only seniors.

 

Chris Lofton is a perfect example of a kid that won it during his junior year. After he won the state championship and was MVP there was no questions that he would win it. Ricardo also won a championship but he wasn't as dominate as Lofton. He had more competition on his own team as others could give arguments tos Pittman being the best player on that team. About Hood there was no way he should of won it, and the only reason he did was because he was going to Kentucky. Walt Allen is another perfect example of a kid that won it during his junior year. If it was just a one season award then it wouldn't only go to seniors. But the award is just for seniors, and you know the voters just do not look at that one season.

 

How often have we seen an underclassmen that was clearly the best player in the state? Very rarely...that's why it's a senior based award.

 

As someone already pointed out, I"m sure there are SOME who vote on it based on a kid's career but they're the exception, not the rule. Most vote for the senior that had the best all around senior season and was also an outstanding STUDENT-ATHLETE. This year it was Elisha Justice, hence him winning the award.

 

There's plenty of examples of kids who won it based on one season. Domonic Tilford (05), Stephon Pettigrew (06) and Jon Hood (09) are both prime examples. Every now and then you'll see a kid like Darius Miller who comes along and has a great career both individually and team-wise, but look at the senior season he had as well. He was the most deserving SENIOR that year which is why he won.

Darrell Griffith won the award and the 2nd best player in the state, Bobby Turner, was also on his Male high school team and they didn't win the region. Lost to a Ballard team with Jr Jeff Lamp and a host of other D1 prospects.

There is alot of talent in this Junior class. It will be interesting to look back at this thread after Mr. Basketball is awarded next year.