Me too. Glad the offspring were able to overcome.

 

Incredible how accurate those occupational interest surveys are.

I love how "D1" is tossed about in these threads like it's just a common thing. First, we have a handful of D1 basketball players in this state year in and year out. And that's just the truth. Why some think that D1 is the only scholarship out there is beyond me. And I'm sure I will get a pat response that "no one really thought that and we all realize there are more colleges than D1". Really? Cause it doesn't sound like it and we throw D1 around so much that frankly, it's sickening. Newsflash, we don't have any kids graduating this year in KY who are talented enough to earn a scholarship at Duke, UK, or UNC. So we can all wake up out of the ESPN zone and smell the coffee that there are tons of other schools at various levels out there where kids can play.

 

Now that I have that off my chest:lol:, I held my son back in the 6th grade. To say that sports didn't have a part to play in that would be a lie. Did I do it solely based on sports? Absolutely not. However, I challenge anyone, parent or child who has been held back to say that they've regretted it. You won't find one. And the assertion that "if I hadn't been held back, I'd be a year further down the road now", is just retarded thinking. Selfishly, I for one get another year with my son in my household. He gets another year under my roof to mature, hopefully to be able to better handle the world of college awaiting him when he gets there. Or at least be somewhat more mature than he would have been entering at 17. There are various reasons kids are held back, and sometimes there are multiple reasons, including but not exclusive to sports.

 

D1, crackin' me up.:ohbrother:

 

Wow. I can't believe that you said that.

 

I'd say that each case is different and each child is different. A kid entering college at 17 MIGHT be too immature to do that. The trouble is, we don't really know that until he IS 17. I've seen kids that were ready for college that early or earlier and those entering at 20+ that weren't.

 

Personally, I was ready for college the beginning of my high school senior year. Luckily for me, my parents didn't hold me back for athletics. I was also ready to graduate college and begin my professional life at age 21.

My junior year in high school I averaged 15 pts a game. My senior year I averaged 26 or so and earned a full athletic scholarship to play basketball. My education paid, my degree earned, four years of doing something I love.

 

I was held back in sixth grade. Partly due to a poor sixth grade teacher, partly because I had the potential to be a good basketball player. With that said, it worked for me, but I also worked hard to help acheive that goal.

 

Does it work for everyone, I would say not. However it did work for me.

Wow. I can't believe that you said that.

 

I'd say that each case is different and each child is different. A kid entering college at 17 MIGHT be too immature to do that. The trouble is, we don't really know that until he IS 17. I've seen kids that were ready for college that early or earlier and those entering at 20+ that weren't.

 

Personally, I was ready for college the beginning of my high school senior year. Luckily for me, my parents didn't hold me back for athletics. I was also ready to graduate college and begin my professional life at age 21.

So, you really think that a kid who was held back is gonna be disgruntled because he put his "life" on hold by a year? Seriously, that's your argument against kids being held back?

As for your situation, I'm glad you were ready so early for college, and more importantly to make decisions on your own without any adult/parental influence. My guess is that you are probably the exception and not the rule. As for me, I could have used another year. Perhaps that year would have made me a bit more mature and prepared for the decisions I had to make on my own.

I graduated when I was 17 years old, and started my Freshman year of college at 17. My parents talked about holding me back when I was in 3rd grade. It wasn't because of grades, but because of my maturity level. I was younger than anyone in my class, and even younger than a lot of the kids in the class behind me. I was totally against it, and my parents decided to leave me alone. I wish I had listened to them. Would I have gotten a scholarship if they had held me back? Nope. Not even close, but I would have had the opportunity to mature and develop for another year, and no doubt enjoyed my high school sports career a lot more. I also would have been better prepared to adapt to life as a college student.

So, you really think that a kid who was held back is gonna be disgruntled because he put his "life" on hold by a year? Seriously, that's your argument against kids being held back?

As for your situation, I'm glad you were ready so early for college, and more importantly to make decisions on your own without any adult/parental influence. My guess is that you are probably the exception and not the rule. As for me, I could have used another year. Perhaps that year would have made me a bit more mature and prepared for the decisions I had to make on my own.

 

Where did I use the word "disgruntled"?

 

You might be right in that my situation is the exception and not the rule. But, I doubt that I am in my own category there.

 

Additionally, can we tell in the 6th grade what someone's maturity level will be in high school, as to whether or not he/she might not be ready ? Why not wait and hold them back at THAT point, rather than prematurely? Now, if the 6th grader is not ready to move up as a 6th grader, then that's a different situation.

 

I'm not judging anyone that has held back their child. I don't necessarily think that there is a definitive right or wrong answer here. I'm just saying that there is much to consider in making that decision and athletics alone should not govern it.

I love this argument.

 

 

Its no ones business but the parents....PERIOD.

 

Most people complain because their son or daughter is getting beat by the hold-back, same opportunity is given to you as the ones held back.......either hold you kid back or don't its your choice but stop the complaining either way its goes.

 

I was a hold-back and my son and nephews will be one too.

I was one and do not regret it at all. I was held back in 3rd grade. All of my family either has been or will be also at an early age.

Where did I use the word "disgruntled"?

 

You might be right in that my situation is the exception and not the rule. But, I doubt that I am in my own category there.

 

Additionally, can we tell in the 6th grade what someone's maturity level will be in high school, as to whether or not he/she might not be ready ? Why not wait and hold them back at THAT point, rather than prematurely? Now, if the 6th grader is not ready to move up as a 6th grader, then that's a different situation.

 

I'm not judging anyone that has held back their child. I don't necessarily think that there is a definitive right or wrong answer here. I'm just saying that there is much to consider in making that decision and athletics alone should not govern it.

Then why are we arguing? We are on the same page.:idunno:

 

I just think that there is some fallacy out there that parents are doing it so that an extra year gives their child a better chance to play D1 basketball. Not at all true. Well, I should preface that last comment that there is likely a moron or two that believe something along those lines. So, most sane parents aren't making those assumptions. My guess is that those making those assertions either haven't been held back, or don't have children who have been held back.

Then why are we arguing? We are on the same page.:idunno:

 

Well, you'll have to answer your own question there. You were the one that called my thinking (and it pains be to say this, as it's such a disgusting word) 'retarded.'

My junior year in high school I averaged 15 pts a game. My senior year I averaged 26 or so and earned a full athletic scholarship to play basketball. My education paid, my degree earned, four years of doing something I love.

 

I was held back in sixth grade. Partly due to a poor sixth grade teacher, partly because I had the potential to be a good basketball player. With that said, it worked for me, but I also worked hard to help acheive that goal.

 

Does it work for everyone, I would say not. However it did work for me.

 

When did schools start showing interest in you?

I'd be interested to know of the kids who got scholarships in the last few years, how many were held back?

There may be an age factor here. I will be 55 this year. I knew no one who was held back when I was in school. One either failed or passed.

I was one and do not regret it at all. I was held back in 3rd grade. All of my family either has been or will be also at an early age.

 

Wouldn't it be easier to just start them in school a year later?

I didn't go to K the year I could have because my birthday fell right on the line. Instead I was one of the oldest in my class. I think my parents all the time for it! I taught school almost 8 years and I can tell you there is a really big difference in that one year especially for boys. They mature later both physically and mentally! My sons BDay is going to fall on that line and my nephew held back this year in 6th grade which he had some other things going on.

Most of the best athletes that went on to play D1 college ball or played a lot in college all held back one year at my high school. To me it all depends on what the kid + their parents feels like is the best for their situation.

I'll be the first to say the amount of dillusional parents about their kids athletic abilities is amazing and a big problem! I have seen the 1 year hold back benefit a lot of kids though.