Probably because you aren't in a fraternity lol big joke. Times are hard to get a job in many industries cause it sucks.

 

The thing that confuses me is when people say, "I hate fraternities". I could care less if you don't want to join, its definitely your decision, but where does the hatred usually come from? lol.

 

The law enforcement field, which I found out the hard way so far, is very very competitive :lol:. Every time I apply there are no less than 30-40 other people there.

It seems there is some very strong anti-fraternity sentiment in this thread. As I said before, I believe that fraternities and sororities can be great things for those who want that. I don't think some people join them solely to meet friends. They provide great leadership opportunities and great lifetime benefits (outside of friendships) as well.

 

Proud Sig Ep here. I had plenty of friends prior to joining a fraternity. A fraternity is many things. A means to buy friends is not on that list.

 

 

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

Proud Sig Ep here. I had plenty of friends prior to joining a fraternity. A fraternity is many things. A means to buy friends is not on that list.

 

 

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

 

That kind of statement with a cocky tone is why people don't like some, but not all, frat guys. But what else did I expect? I can say I had a bid and proudly turned it down.. oops a shot to the ego?

Edited September 24, 200917 yr by Ets Factor

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Hardly... I could have been in three different fraternities if I wanted, but chose not to. The attitude you portray in this post is exactly the reason Greeks have the image they do. :thumb:

It seems there is some very strong anti-fraternity sentiment in this thread. As I said before, I believe that fraternities and sororities can be great things for those who want that. I don't think some people join them solely to meet friends. They provide great leadership opportunities and great lifetime benefits (outside of friendships) as well.

 

 

I'm not anti-fraternity, some are nice and actually do good in the community and in other areas. Just not for me..

 

 

Proud Sig Ep here. I had plenty of friends prior to joining a fraternity. A fraternity is many things. A means to buy friends is not on that list.

 

 

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

 

I could have joined a couple of fraternities but decided not too. I would rather be friends with them anyway, go to most of the parties and not have to pay the dues that they do. I have nothing against fraternities nor the people that are in them.

Proud Sig Ep here. I had plenty of friends prior to joining a fraternity. A fraternity is many things. A means to buy friends is not on that list.

 

 

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

I don't think I have an anti-fraternity position (as my last post should show), I'm more or less indifferent. I know it's for some, but it wasn't for me, and I don't see the big fuss. BUT, I found that if you are outgoing, decently popular, and were a seemed to have a good tiem you could pretty much pick and choose which fraternity you wanted to be in. I had no shortages of fraternities I could've joined, just chose not to. The only time I really ever saw any friction was my freshman year when some of the upper class guys of the fraternities I chose not to join ,seemed to view it as a slap in the face. After a few years in Lexington I hung around frat people quite a bit, as I'm sure they saw my close group had plenty of bar connections and great parties in our own right.

I was a Pike at NKU as well and faced a lot of the same criticisms that are listed on here. I did not "have" to pay for friends, in fact I had a lot of different groups of friends both inside and outside the Fraternity. I have kept in better touch with my fraternity friends than my other friends from school because we still have those organized events every year. I can speak for fraternities at NKU they are not really eliteist or selective. If you get along with any of the people in there you can get it. It was for me, but not for my other friends. I have never understood why there is so much hatred.

 

I am proud of it but I was never that man who tried to make others feel "outside" or push them into joining. If you want to be there good, if not, thats okay too.

P.S. Most of the anti-fraternity sentiment is probably from those who didn't get an invite to join one or just don't get it in general.. Oops did I say that out loud..........................:sssh::sssh::sssh::sssh:

 

BTW everybody, I was just trying to get a rise out of a few people in here. The statement in no way reflects my feelings on this subject. You people should know me better than that.:p:p:p

I understand the perception those have that weren't in a fraternity. It's the same one I had. I think unless you were in one it's hard to really understand. I hate the phrase buying your friends. I've had a lot of friends my whole life and never once felt like I was paying money for friends.

2.50 x 10= $25.00 So if you drank 10 beers in a night at a bar + a $5 cover then that's $30. Now if you went out once on Thurs and once on say Wed or Sat then you are talking $60 a week. $240 a month. Fall Aug-mid Dec that adds up too [B]$1,020 a semester. Dues weren't close to that. I guess anybody that ever went to a bar in college "bought their friends" only for a higher price with less to show for it

 

That price, plus buying friends, I bet all Greeks are in debt up to their eyeballs.:lol:

That price, plus buying friends, I bet all Greeks are in debt up to their eyeballs.:lol:

 

I don't think you followed his post.

Why do the "frat" guys on here keep calling it a frat? I thought that was against the rules?

 

I always heard they don't call their Fraternity a Frat because they wouldn't call their country a.......I can't really remember the rest.:sssh:

^ That's what I say.

 

I really dont' care for it when people call it a frat, and you will never see me do so.

 

No rules about it though.

I don't have a problem with calling it a "frat". Heck I've referred to myself as a frat-boy before. The people who get all bent out of shape over it and EVERYTHING they wear has letters on it, I refer to those guys as being "fratastic" :lol: