There is a reason it is right? Stoned is stoned. Kids stoned? I have a problem with kids being stoned. Make it legal? OK would you buy some for your children?

 

Went for a job interview/lie detecter. First question....have you used marijuana in the past year? me-"No"

 

Next, used in the past 5 years? me- "No"

 

10 years? me-"No"

 

Ok, the machine is turned off, "off the record. when is the last time you smoked? me- "Sir, I've never smoked anything. Ever."

 

Man....you are hired. We have a major problem in the fire department with it.

 

I went to the railroad.

 

If something makes your clothes/hair stink for days, it can't be good for you.

 

This is how I feel, and my thoughts.

CC, The arguement that legalization would boost the economy is somewhat compelling however you are only looking at the income side of the balance sheet. The expense side would be realized down the road in significant increase of medicaid/medicare healthcare costs. If Obama gets his way, even greater costs to a nationalized healthcare system. Billions of tax and private dollars being spent currently on treating smokers and drinkers due to negative longterm health problems. Not sure legalizing pot smokers helps the expense line. Although, one could argue that the system is already paying for those using now, but I would think there might be an increase in users if made legal. I might be more inclined to be for your point of view if those wanting to smoke pot waive their right to government available healthcare. At least it has been proven that alcohol in moderation can provide some benefits to your health. I can not say the same for smoking, cigs or pot, as they provide zero health benefits. I also disagree with the whole medical pot movement. There are plenty of less harmful/carcinogenic drugs that are also more effective that a doctor can prescribe for pain or loss of appetite.

What are you basing that information off of? As someone said earlier, odds are if someone is using more hardcore drugs like cocaine or heroine then yes they most likely used marijuana at some point in their life. But the vast majority of marijuana smokers have not moved onto hardcore drugs.

Send me a link with your facts about marijuana smokers who haven't moved on to harder drug usage.

 

Trust me, there is not one.

Send me a link with your facts about marijuana smokers who haven't moved on to harder drug usage.

 

Trust me, there is not one.

 

So, you know all pot smokers personally? Wow.

So, you know all pot smokers personally? Wow.

?????????

 

I am asking him to reference the studies with an online link to the data regarding marijuana users who do or don't go on to harder drugs. I am sure there are none.

 

What does that have to do with me personally knowing all pot smokers?

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I am asking him to sight the studies with an online link to the data regarding marijuana users who do or don't go on to harder drugs. I am sure there are none.

 

What does that have to do with me personally knowing all pot smokers?

 

What kind of facts would you be looking for?

 

Anyone using harder drugs is almost 100% likely to have smoked weed before.

 

But I think it would also be accurate to say that there are millions of people in this country who have smoked marijuana, but not tried anything more extreme.

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I am asking him to reference the studies with an online link to the data regarding marijuana users who do or don't go on to harder drugs. I am sure there are none.

 

What does that have to do with me personally knowing all pot smokers?

 

Sorry, I misread your post. :ohbrother:

But I think it would also be accurate to say that there are millions of people in this country who have smoked marijuana, but not tried anything more extreme.

I know tons that have stopped at pot.

I know some that have tried other things and are now heavily addicted.

I know some that have tried other things and never got addicted and now don't do any of them.

 

It's about the person and illegal or legal...they are going to do them. Let's stop all the greater evils that come with marijuana being illegal and legalize it.

What kind of facts would you be looking for?

 

Anyone using harder drugs is almost 100% likely to have smoked weed before.

 

But I think it would also be accurate to say that there are millions of people in this country who have smoked marijuana, but not tried anything more extreme.

You and I agree on marijuana being the stepping stone to hard drug usage.

 

I also agree with your last statement, but you really aren't going way out on a limb. Since the United States has over 300 million people, and since anything over 2 million who had smoked marijuana would be plural (millions), then it goes without saying that "millions of people have smoked marijuana , but not tried anything more extreme."

You and I agree on marijuana being the stepping stone to hard drug usage.

 

I also agree with your last statement, but you really aren't going way out on a limb. Since the United States has over 300 million people, and since anything over 2 million who had smoked marijuana would be plural (millions), then it goes without saying that "millions of people have smoked marijuana , but not tried anything more extreme."

 

Well we would have to have a statistic on how many Americans abuse illegal drugs after marijuana use.

 

That would be a much easier number to find than how many people have smoked weed but not tried anything else.

 

Although there really are no easy or accurate numbers to find when it comes to drug use.

?????????

 

I am asking him to reference the studies with an online link to the data regarding marijuana users who do or don't go on to harder drugs. I am sure there are none.

 

What does that have to do with me personally knowing all pot smokers?

 

 

Ask & you shall recieve:

 

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/43

 

I'll draw special attention to these:

 

#15: The World Health Organization noted the effects of prohibition in its March 1998 study, when it stated that "exposure to other drugs when purchasing cannabis on the black market, increases the opportunity to use other illicit drugs."

 

Source: Hall, W., Room, R. & Bondy, S., WHO Project on Health Implications of Cannabis Use: A Comparative Appraisal of the Health and Psychological Consequences of Alcohol, Cannabis, Nicotine and Opiate Use, August 28, 1995 (Geneva, Switzerland: World Health Organization, March 1998).

 

#17: The Institute of Medicine's 1999 report on marijuana explained that marijuana has been mistaken for a gateway drug in the past because "Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first. In fact, most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana, usually before they are of legal age."

 

Source: Janet E. Joy, Stanley J. Watson, Jr., and John A Benson, Jr., "Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base," Division of Neuroscience and Behavioral Research, Institute of Medicine (Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1999).

There is a reason it is right? Stoned is stoned. Kids stoned? I have a problem with kids being stoned. Make it legal? OK would you buy some for your children?

 

Went for a job interview/lie detecter. First question....have you used marijuana in the past year? me-"No"

 

Next, used in the past 5 years? me- "No"

 

10 years? me-"No"

 

Ok, the machine is turned off, "off the record. when is the last time you smoked? me- "Sir, I've never smoked anything. Ever."

 

Man....you are hired. We have a major problem in the fire department with it.

 

I went to the railroad.

 

If something makes your clothes/hair stink for days, it can't be good for you.

 

This is how I feel, and my thoughts.

 

We agree that there is no place for children to be smoking pot. There is also no place in society for children smoking cigarettes and/or drinking alcohol. That is why we have statutes that do not allow minors to purchase or use these products. Marijuana would be no different.

 

I appreciate your thoughts. :thumb: However, the "because it stinks" excuse doesn't justify it being illegal. Additionally, legalizing marijuana is not going to make you smoke or go to places where marijuana smoking is taking place. It would not subject you to marijuana much, if any, more frequently than you already are.

I applaud you doing the research.

 

I find it comical that your opinion #15 is published out of Geneva, Switzerland where marijuana is legal. Of course they are of that opinion.

I applaud you doing the research.

 

I find it comical that your opinion #15 is published out of Geneva, Switzerland where marijuana is legal. Of course they are of that opinion.

 

It is from the World Health Organization, whom I would assume is a relatively credible organization.

 

Regardless, does their stance on marijuana change their research?

I find it comical that your opinion #15 is published out of Geneva, Switzerland where marijuana is legal. Of course they are of that opinion.

 

What is faulty with their research? Or should I assume you only find resources credible when they agree with your position?