I don't know who would be able to beat BOTH St. X and Trinity. IMO, if you beat one then you'll probably lose to the other. Unless of course they end up in the same bracket.

 

Either way, maybe they wouldn't have as much success in the regular season... But I just do see anyone competing with a "shortened" Trinity or X squad in the 6A/Old 4a.

 

Cutting their enrollment in half would hurt the team more than you think. They would lose many starters and thus would not be as good of a team. You can't just take away all of the kids who don't get in and assume that the studs would all still be there.

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IMO, this thread is nothing but an attempt to belittle Trinity and St. X's championships. Who cares if they've got a large number of boys at the school? St. X and Trinity MAKE more ATHLETES then anyone else... That's why they are so successful. Not because they have 52352345 boys that attend their schools.

You seem to be looking at this as belittling Trinity and St. Xavier. I don't, I think it is a testament to what they have. With all the school located in Louisville, and with most of those school not requiring you to pay tuition, Trinity and St. Xavier have the highest enrollment, even with a required tuition. How is that belittling Trinity or St. Xavier?

 

As for the numbers, they are important, no way around it. They are not the only important thing, or Paul Dunbar would be unstoppable. But, they are important.

Cutting their enrollment in half would hurt the team more than you think. They would lose many starters and thus would not be as good of a team. You can't just take away all of the kids who don't get in and assume that the studs would all still be there.

 

I understand what your saying, but Trinity has quite a number of studs though. Take a few away and I still think they do fine... Better then most teams in the 6A. Games might be more competitive though... Not as many 62-7 blowouts.

 

This is just my personal opinion though. :thumb:

You seem to be looking at this as belittling Trinity and St. Xavier. I don't, I think it is a testament to what they have. With all the school located in Louisville, and with most of those school not requiring you to pay tuition, Trinity and St. Xavier have the highest enrollment, even with a required tuition. How is that belittling Trinity or St. Xavier?

 

As for the numbers, they are important, no way around it. They are not the only important thing, or Paul Dunbar would be unstoppable. But, they are important.

 

I don't actually think the number of students is belittling. But after reading Doubledueces previous posts I believe he that was his intention.

I don't actually think the number of students is belittling. But after reading Doubledueces previous posts I believe he that was his intention.

I think you may be taking offense to some things that are not that bad. The number difference between Trinity and Simon Kenton is quite big. Like I said, is that the only ingredient in the Championship recipe? No, but that is a big difference, and I don't think there is anything wrong with pointing it out. I don't see it as an excuse, just part of the facts.

 

My team is normally out numbered by schools it plays. I don't see it as a reason for my team to lose, we expect to beat everyone we play. But, I would be fooling myself to think that bigger teams didn't have some advantages over my team. I have never been associated with a large team, they may have some problems that a small team does not. I don't know.

I think you may be taking offense to some things that are not that bad. The number difference between Trinity and Simon Kenton is quite big. Like I said, is that the only ingredient in the Championship recipe? No, but that is a big difference, and I don't think there is anything wrong with pointing it out. I don't see it as an excuse, just part of the facts.

 

My team is normally out numbered by schools it plays. I don't see it as a reason for my team to lose, we expect to beat everyone we play. But, I would be fooling myself to think that bigger teams didn't have some advantages over my team. I have never been associated with a large team, they may have some problems that a small team does not. I don't know.

 

If T or X does they sure are doing a good job of hiding them from the rest of the state. I agree with you in that school size isn't a knock at all, just a part of the equation.

It seems pretty simple to me, the more athletes you have to choose from the more likely you are to put a better 11 on the field than your opponent does. I have no problem admitting that Monroe County's success this year was in large part due to an above average senior class of 18 and 52 freshman-juniors. No doubt it still takes great coaching and 100% effort from the young men that play the games, but having 70 players as oppose to a normal 40 sure doesn't hurt...

IMO, this thread is nothing but an attempt to belittle Trinity and St. X's championships. Who cares if they've got a large number of boys at the school? St. X and Trinity MAKE more ATHLETES then anyone else... That's why they are so successful. Not because they have 52352345 boys that attend their schools.

 

You must be dreaming then. It's not the only thing but it has a huge amount to do with it..How can it not. It only seems like common sense to me..:confused:

I would put Highlands against T and X every year if we would only play one half of football. The depth that these two have would cause a fatigue factor in the 2nd half just like Colerain did to the Bird's this year( 13- 7 Colerain at the half). That's the big difference between these school's. #######'s of players.

Ohio is considering splitting up Division 1 (their big school division) into two divisions due to this exact issue.

I think the knee-jerk reaction from those who disagree is not due to the hypothesis, but to the thread title. "No wonder..." as if to say, "Ah ha! Guess what I just learned."

 

Certainly a factor, among many, but a road with very deep ruts.

Then please explain why the largest public schools (Dunbar and Henderson County), who have male enrollments of over 1000, don't dominate.

 

And then explain how Highlands (who is playing 2 classes up I believe) is able to dominate their class. They are the smallest school in 5A.

 

Is size a factor?

 

Yes. BUT if it was the end all be all then Dunbar (the largest public school in the state) wouldn't be abysmal.

 

When I was in school 900 years ago the public schools in Jefferson County had larger male enrollments then Trinity and guess what, Trinity still won a bunch.

Then please explain why the largest public schools (Dunbar and Henderson County), who have male enrollments of over 1000, don't dominate.

 

And then explain how Highlands (who is playing 2 classes up I believe) is able to dominate their class. They are the smallest school in 5A.

 

There’s no doubt exceptions, and I don't think anyone is saying that #'s alone win games, but are you saying that having 1,500 boys is no better than having 700?

There’s no doubt exceptions, and I don't think anyone is saying that #'s alone win games, but are you saying that having 1,500 boys is no better than having 700?

 

This is from the first post in the thread.

The biggest reason they dominate is enrollment.

 

From the first post in the thread. Sure seems to me that's exactly what he is saying.