September 16, 200818 yr I don't believe it would. Right now it causes drama if you lose one game, cause might not be able to make title game, however if you lose one game even with playoff system, then you still might not make it. Trust me there would be plenty of drama to see which 8 teams make the playoffs. Also now with there being a lot more parity in college football. We are not usually going to see anymore just two clear cut teams go undefeated. Everyone usually slips up once among the way. So you like how we then just really take a guess at who we think MIGHT be the two best teams? Just think about this. We have OSU who just got killed by USC. However they very easily now can win the rest of their games since the Big 10 is so weak, and if that happens with the system the way it is. They still might just slip into the Title game. They will slowly start to move ahead of teams who end up getting their first losses. I dont know what you think, but OSU is definitely not one of the two best teams in the country this year. So not right a team who would be better than them, would not even get a chance to play for the title even though they just have one lost too. The magnitude of that game the other night was huge. It was an elimination game for tOSU. Unless every team has two losses, tOSU will not jump anyone at the end of the year to get in the title game. Even then, they will not jump a two loss team in the SEC if they are conference champs. Assuming tOSU wins out, they would be in the 8 man playoff as a conference champ and most likely face USC in the first round and lose by 30+ points. At the end of the year, you are not going to find more than 3 or 4 teams that have a legitimate argument to be in the BCS title game.
September 16, 200818 yr I don't believe it would. Right now it causes drama if you lose one game, cause might not be able to make title game, however if you lose one game even with playoff system, then you still might not make it. Trust me there would be plenty of drama to see which 8 teams make the playoffs. Also now with there being a lot more parity in college football. We are not usually going to see anymore just two clear cut teams go undefeated. Everyone usually slips up once among the way. So you like how we then just really take a guess at who we think MIGHT be the two best teams? Just think about this. We have OSU who just got killed by USC. However they very easily now can win the rest of their games since the Big 10 is so weak, and if that happens with the system the way it is. They still might just slip into the Title game. They will slowly start to move ahead of teams who end up getting their first losses. I dont know what you think, but OSU is definitely not one of the two best teams in the country this year. So not right a team who would be better than them, would not even get a chance to play for the title even though they just have one lost too. I'm not saying there wouldn't be drama in a playoff system, but it would for sure take away some regular season drama. OSU, who just got killed by USC, would have a MUCH better chance of getting into an eight team playoff than getting into a national title game with just two teams. Thus, that game meant WAY more to their national title hopes.
September 16, 200818 yr If there was a playoff system; Jim Tressel=Bob Huggins That much drinking, eh?
September 16, 200818 yr Author The magnitude of that game the other night was huge. It was an elimination game for tOSU. Unless every team has two losses, tOSU will not jump anyone at the end of the year to get in the title game. Even then, they will not jump a two loss team in the SEC if they are conference champs. Assuming tOSU wins out, they would be in the 8 man playoff as a conference champ and most likely face USC in the first round and lose by 30+ points. At the end of the year, you are not going to find more than 3 or 4 teams that have a legitimate argument to be in the BCS title game. They way college football seems to work, teams get much more penalized for losses late in the year than they do early in the year. So if OSU just goes through the Big 10 undefeated like they could. Then yeah good chance they will jump these teams. After 4 weeks they probably will be back in the top ten around 6 or 7. Then when upsets start happening at end of year like always, they will keep moving up, because they are winning and other teams are losing. So yeah they very easily could still find their way into that title game. Also you said that they will not jump a two loss SEC champ, but however has is that fair for OSU? I mean they did only lose one game and the SEC team lost two. Yeah that SEC team probably better, however we don't know for sure. It would all just be opinion, and we once again will just be GUESSING at who we think the two best teams are. Then a team who might not really be one of the two best teams would be given a chance, and they might just play one great game and pull it off. However in a 8 team playoff, you have to find away to play 3 great games, so there is a lot better chance that we crown a TRUE national champ.
September 16, 200818 yr Well the prevailing opinion on here would probably be that if there were a playoff system, an SEC school would win almost the entire time. I'd say in the past little bit it would have been an SEC school or USC. In 2003 you'd have USC or LSU. In 2004 USC or Auburn. In '05 Texas and USC (which I'm assuming is the one you were removing). In 2006 it could possibly have been Florida, USC, or LSU. In '07 Georgia, LSU, or USC. I think you'd have a tough time selling that USC would have won each of those tossups, and I can definitely say I don't believe they win in 2002 against either Miami or Ohio State. Trying to guess who'd win a playoff is no different than debating who should be in the title game. The thing about saying USC would win because they always win big games is that we've never seen USC vs. the SEC's best. USC and the SEC have easily been the most dominant forces in the BCS and yet they've never met on the field. I like to number crunch, and here's a few I came up with... BCS Stats Title Games SEC (4-0), 31-17 Avg Score USC (1-1), 47-30 Avg Score Since 2002, SEC (3-0), 33-17 Avg Score Overall SEC (11-4), 33-22 Avg Score USC (5-1), 40-21 Avg Score Since 2002, SEC (7-1), 32-18 Avg Score Team Breakdown Tennessee (1-1), Won National Title 1998 Florida (3-1), 37-21 Avg Score, Won National Title 2006 LSU (4-0), 37-22 Avg Score, Won National Title 2003, 2007 Georgia (2-1), Avg Score 34-20 Auburn (1-0) Alabama (0-1) Southern Cal and the SEC are very comparable. I don't think they'd have won 5 of 6 or 6 of 7 vs. the type of competition they'd have faced.
September 16, 200818 yr Author I'm not saying there wouldn't be drama in a playoff system, but it would for sure take away some regular season drama. OSU, who just got killed by USC, would have a MUCH better chance of getting into an eight team playoff than getting into a national title game with just two teams. Thus, that game meant WAY more to their national title hopes. Yes true they would have a better chance at getting in the playoffs, and well maybe they would deserve to be in it because they are one of the top 8 teams. I just really don't think it would lose much excitement at all, if any. I mean at the end of the year people will definitely be watching to see who gets in it, and at what seed. In an 8 team playoff they most likely will have to play the 1st round on the top 4 teams home fields. So there would be a lot of pressure on the top 4 teams as well, to make sure they don't lose. Because being one of the top 4 teams and getting a home game would be huge. Then say if you are like ranked 5th or 6th going into the last week, then you still better win because a lost probably knocks you out of making the playoffs. So yeah there would be plenty of drama. But say you are right and the season does lose just a little bit of excitement. I bet you the excitement of the playoffs for those three weeks would definitely make up for that little bit of excitement lost. (If the season even lost any excitement, which I don't think it would.)
September 16, 200818 yr I would like to see a playoff as well. At least a +1 system. However, we will never know what would have happened in those years with a playoff system. When USC loses to an unranked school (Stanford 4-7) with a losing record and to Oregon (ranked #5) it is different that LSU losing to 2 ranked teams on the road with winning records in the SEC. Would they have won a game with LSU? Maybe so. But the current system is set up that you can' lose a game like that to Stanford and stay in the mix, unless it is very early in the season.
September 16, 200817 yr Author I would like to see a playoff as well. At least a +1 system. However, we will never know what would have happened in those years with a playoff system. When USC loses to an unranked school (Stanford 4-7) with a losing record and to Oregon (ranked #5) it is different that LSU losing to 2 ranked teams on the road with winning records in the SEC. Would they have won a game with LSU? Maybe so. But the current system is set up that you can' lose a game like that to Stanford and stay in the mix, unless it is very early in the season. Not true. If USC would have just beat UCLA in the last game last year, then they would have been in the title game. So with the current system even though they lost to Stanford they had a chance to make the title game. The way we do it now really does not crown a TRUE National Champion at all. All we do is take a guess at trying to decide who the two best teams are.
September 17, 200817 yr Not true. If USC would have just beat UCLA in the last game last year, then they would have been in the title game. So with the current system even though they lost to Stanford they had a chance to make the title game. The way we do it now really does not crown a TRUE National Champion at all. All we do is take a guess at trying to decide who the two best teams are. Unforatunately it has been like that for years, we have even had to have co-Champs before. As long as there are Bowl games, there will never be a playoff system like I-AA has ran for years. The NCAA cares to much about money, and not enough about finding out who is the tru National Champion!
September 17, 200817 yr However now we would have a better chance at crowning a TRUE national champion, instead of just taking a guess at who we think MIGHT be the two best teams and have them play in the title game. Let me ask the following questions. Why is it important to have a true national champion? Does a playoff system where games are one and done always deliver the best team as champion? Is it physically possible to deliver a best of 5, or best of 7 series in football? Can you appreciate that in delivering a mythical champion, the result is that the goal of every team is not only to merely deliver the championship to do so in a manner that can not be questioned? Is it bad that 50% of the teams playing in the post season end on a high note? Is it bad for teams of completely unequal status to have realistic goals? (For example Rice to get to the Liberty bowl or UK to make it to the Peach Bowl as opposed to both wanting a national championship) Does College Football NOT have the most passionate fan bases in all of American sports? Did College Football need a Playoff to get such a passionate fans? When I look at all these questions I find myself believing that the Bowl system and the ambiguity of the college football national champion actually serve to enhance the college football experience. I think if college football had a playoff system it would be like making out with a really hot girl and then realizing that there was more fun, excitement, and interest in the thought of making out than the actually doing the deed.
September 17, 200817 yr Author Let me ask the following questions. Why is it important to have a true national champion? Does a playoff system where games are one and done always deliver the best team as champion? Is it physically possible to deliver a best of 5, or best of 7 series in football? Can you appreciate that in delivering a mythical champion, the result is that the goal of every team is not only to merely deliver the championship to do so in a manner that can not be questioned? Is it bad that 50% of the teams playing in the post season end on a high note? Is it bad for teams of completely unequal status to have realistic goals? (For example Rice to get to the Liberty bowl or UK to make it to the Peach Bowl as opposed to both wanting a national championship) Does College Football NOT have the most passionate fan bases in all of American sports? Did College Football need a Playoff to get such a passionate fans? When I look at all these questions I find myself believing that the Bowl system and the ambiguity of the college football national champion actually serve to enhance the college football experience. I think if college football had a playoff system it would be like making out with a really hot girl and then realizing that there was more fun, excitement, and interest in the thought of making out than the actually doing the deed. To answer your first question, it would definitely deliver more of a true national champion than the system we have now. I mean shoot we should just do away with the whole National Champion thing then, if we are just going to take a guess at who we think is the best team. Because that is what we do, is just guess who the two best teams are. Yeah with 8 teams you will be guessing too. However there a better chance that one of those 8 teams, probably is a team that would be the best, and would earn it by winning 3 games against great teams. Instead of maybe just pulling out one great game and being named national champ. As for the bowls, why exactly do they have to go away if we have a playoff system? Why can't teams who are not in the playoffs still go to bowls. I mean all those smaller bowls you mentioned are teams who wouldn't be in playoffs anyways. Also just have the first round of playoffs right after end of the season. Then you will have the couple of weeks still to get ready for the semi-finals which would be in two of the BCS bowls. Then week after is the championship. So lets see you still have your bowl games, the season is still exciting because teams are fighting for just 8 places, and one lost still could knock you out of it. Then you got an even more exciting post season, and still have your precious bowls on the side.
September 17, 200817 yr I highly doubt USC winning 5 of the last 6 NC if it were in a playoff system.
September 17, 200817 yr Author I highly doubt USC winning 5 of the last 6 NC if it were in a playoff system. They sure would have had a great chance at it.
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